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Best Books on Farming – A Crowdsourced List

Best Books on Farming – A Crowdsourced List


If you listen to the podcast, you know that I’m fascinated with agriculture and its ecological and economic benefits to our culture here in the American West. Recently, I’ve been working in the farming community along Colorado’s lower Arkansas Valley—some of the most fertile and productive farmland in the Rocky Mountain West. I am thoroughly impressed by these farmers’ tireless work ethic, their commitment to sustainable agricultural practices, and their desire to see the land remain in production, rather than being developed into another poorly planned strip mall or housing development.

My immersion in Colorado’s farming culture has only whet my appetite to learn more, so I reached out to the podcast listeners via Instagram and asked “What is the best book on farming that you’ve ever read?” I received so many excellent suggestions, from well-known bestsellers to esoteric cult classics.  The full list is below, in no particular order.

Keep in mind, I have not read most of these books (yet), so I can’t vouch for all of them personally. But given the curiosity and passion of Mountain & Prairie Podcast listeners, I trust that these books offer valuable perspectives on farming and agriculture—a diverse set of historical, philisophical, technical, cultural, and ecological outlooks on a complex subject. While I may not agree with every point made in these books, I do love the process of learning, exploring new ideas, challenging my preconceived notions, and making up my mind based on thorough reading and research.

Thanks to everyone who took the time to reach out with recommendations. If you notice any glaring omissions, please let me know in the comments below!

Book Club Selection: “The Big Burn” by Timothy Egan

May-June Book Club Selection: “The Big Burn” by Timothy Egan


If you listen to the podcast, odds are you’ve been paying close attention to the ongoing public lands debate. I’d also venture a guess that you’ve spent a considerable amount of time exploring public lands, whether scaling one of Colorado’s 14ers, camping in the alpine of the Wind River Range, or simply peering of the edge of the Grand Canyon. Public lands are what make the West the West, and they are the foundation of everything unique about the region, from wildlife to scenic views, natural resources to recreation.

To fully understand– or even begin to understand– the American West, you need to understand the history of public lands, so the May-June book club selection is:

The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire That Saved America by Timothy Egan

The book is centered around a massive and deadly forest fire that burned over 3 million acres of Montana, Idaho, and Washington in just two days. While the story of the wildfire is exciting and tragic, I found the real value of this book to be the detailed history of the creation of the United States Forest Service—how our public lands came to be seen as a national treasure owned by the people, rather than a resource to be exploited by robber barons. 

As noted in the subtitle, the book digs into the role that Theodore Roosevelt played in shaping conservation policy, as well as the powerful political and economic forces he had to fight to ensure the protection of these landscapes. Egan also paints a vivid picture of Gifford Pinchot, TR’s right hand man in conservation and the first head of the US Forest Service. Pinchot was an interesting dude to say the least—he would hold conversations with the ghost of his deceased wife, began each day by pouring buckets of ice-cold water on this head, and would regularly square off in boxing and wrestling matches against TR.

The topics and people examined in this book are more important now more than ever—if you want to be an effective advocate for public lands, it’s mandatory to understand this history.  I loved this book, and I think about it regularly as I visit the far-flung corners of the American West. But don’t take my word for it, check out this glowing Los Angeles Times book review for a solid synopsis.

This book club selection is being offered in conjunction with the Diablo Trust’s monthly book club.  Diablo Trust is a leader in cutting-edge conservation in the southwestern US, so I highly encourage you to check out their website and consider supporting their work. At the least, read along with their book club— they have some wonderful monthly selections!


If you’d like to participate:

  • Grab a copy of The Big Burn—purchase it from Amazon or your local bookseller, or check it out from your local library. Start reading.
  • Head over to our Goodreads Group. Create an account, then join in the conversation in the online discussion forum. As you read, give your feedback on the book, pose questions to the group, and share your first-hand experience reading Stegner and Abbey. The only way this works is with lot of participation from lots of people, so the more the better.

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Not interested in TR, Pinchot, or The Big Burn? Then get started on the July-August Book Club selection: Blood and Thunder by Hampton Sides.  More details will be announced in early July.

Adam Foss – Lessons Learned From a Life Afield

Adam Foss

Adam Foss is a world-class hunter who has transformed his passion for wildlife and wild places into a rewarding career in filmmaking and photography. Adam has been obsessed with wilderness adventure for practically his entire life. At age 24, he was the youngest person to take all four species of North American sheep with a bow, an amazing achievement for a hunter of any age. But despite this accomplishment and others, Adam is much more focused on the process of the hunt—spending challenging days in the mountains, forming long-lasting friendships, stewarding public lands, and conserving legendary big game species.

Born in the Canadian Rockies, Adam spent much of his youth bow hunting with his father and older brother. As he grew older, his hunting trips expanded in geography and complexity, and he has now hunted many of the world’s wildest places for some of the most renowned big game. Adam initially considered a career in wildlife biology, but decided to go the creative route instead—he and his wife are now the owners of Foss Media, a company that creates films and photography for some of the most iconic outdoor brands today. As you’ll hear, Adam is passionate about wildlife, storytelling, and conservation, but he is equally humble, grounded, and grateful for being able to do what he loves on a daily basis.

We caught up over Skype, as Adam and his wife are currently traveling around Canada and the American West working on creative projects. We had a fun conversation and managed to cover a lot in just over an hour. We discussed Adam’s childhood in Canada and the lessons he learned from hunting with his father and brother. We chatted about how Adam values the process of hunting over the end goal of taking an animal and our shared theory that hunting taps into something primal in our human DNA. We talked in detail about conservation, specifically the role of public lands in both the United States and Canada. Adam also offered some wise advice to people who want to learn to hunt but may not have a long-standing connection to the sport. And as usual, we discussed Adam’s favorite books, films, and his most powerful outdoor experience.

This was such a fun conversation, and it’s clear that Adam has thought long and hard about these issues. I really enjoyed getting to know Adam, and I think you will too.

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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:58 – How Adam describes his work
7:15 – Adam’s upbringing in Canada
8:50 – Hunting with his dad in the mountains
10:45 – University in British Columbia and more far reaching hunts
12:30 – Adam’s early career goals
14:30 – Lessons learned from hunting with his father
17:45 – Breaking down hunts into manageable peices
20:45 – The mental game of hunting
23:00 – Process over goals
25:45 – Adam’s love of adventure and challenges
27:35 – Influences and mentors
33:15 – Adam’s current goals for a hunt
38:00 – South America trip
39:30 – Hunting as a part of human’s DNA
43:15 – Advice to new hunters
48:15 – Importance of public lands
52:15 – Thoughts on wolves and ecological balance
59:30 – Favorite books
1:02:55 – Favorite documentaries
1:05:20 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:15:00 – Connect with Adam online
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Chris Eyer – Montana’s Mindful Mule Packer

Chris Eyer

Chris Eyer is a true Western polymath. He is probably best known for his work as a mule packer, in which he uses mules to transport supplies into some of Montana’s most remote wilderness areas—he documents the adventures on his extremely popular Instagram account @muledragger. But as you’ll hear in our conversation, mule packing only scratches the surface—Chris is an experienced mountaineer and climber, a former US Marine, a practicing Buddhist, a leather craftsman, and a successful electrical contractor. From his home base in Montana’s Bitterroot Valley, Chris leads a full and fascinating life, working hard and enjoying his connection to the natural world and his animals.

Chris was raised in California, and from an early age was attracted to the outdoors and adventures in wild places. On a backpacking trip during his teens, he came across a team of mules and was immediately entranced—from that moment on, he knew that he wanted to work as a mule packer. As an adult, Chris taught himself the ins and outs of mule packing, a hard-knocks method of learning that’s not for the faint of heart. But through this long and tough self-education, he established incredibly deep relationships with all of his animals– relationships that have significantly enriched his life in many ways.

As you’d expect from someone with Chris’s diverse set of experiences, we had an extremely wide-ranging conversation. We chat about how he became a mule packer and some of the crazy and scary experiences early in his career. We cover his time in the Marines, and the lessons he learned that carry over into his daily life now. We also discuss his connection to Buddhism and his meditation practice, and how his mindful approach to life and wilderness travel keeps him and his team of animals safe in dangerous situations. Chris also explains the specifics of mules from a biological and temperamental perspective. We discuss Chris’s unique connection to legendary alpinist Conrad Anker, as well as the similarities between packing and climbing. As usual, we hit upon books, films, favorite places in the West, and much more.

There’s a ton of amazing information in this episode, so be sure the check out the episode notes. Hopefully I’ll get Chris back for a part two, because there’s still plenty to discuss. Enjoy!

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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:50 – How Chris describes his work
4:15 – Bitterroot Valley
6:30 – How Chris settled in the Bitterroot
8:10 – The equine “feedback loop”
8:45 – Early days riding horses
9:40 – Influenced by Conrad Anker and Alex Lowe
11:10 – First interaction with a packer
12:15 – Joining the Marines
14:00 – Studying philosophy and religious studies
16:15 – Discovering the Montana wilderness
20:10 – Lessons learned from the Marines
23:40 – Buddhism in Chris’s daily life
27:30 – Life’s constant state of change
29:30 – The way wilderness strips away people’s surface-level differences
31:30 – How to learn to meditate
34:15 – Learning the details of mule packing
36:30 – Scary early experience packing
40:30 – Detailed discussion about mules
45:10 – Misconceptions about mules
47:30 – How Chris selects his mules
50:20 – Control versus letting go
55:20 – Trip with Conrad Anker
1:00:15 – Significance of the Heart W brand
1:03:30 – Favorite books
1:06:40 – Favorite documentaries
1:07:55 – Fun activities
1:10:00 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:17:00 – Best advice
1:19:30 – Request of the listeners
1:20:30 – Connect with Chris online
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Sarah Calhoun – Community Building Through Commerce

Sarah Calhoun

Sarah Calhoun is the founder and owner of Red Ants Pants, a Montana-based apparel company that makes high-quality, American-made workwear for women. But Sarah’s business ventures are just the tip of the iceberg—she also started the Red Ants Pants Music Festival, which attracts world-class musicians like Dwight Yoakam and Lucinda Williams. The proceeds from the music festival support Sarah’s third venture, the Red Ants Pants Foundation, an organization dedicated to developing women’s leadership, supporting local farms and ranches, and enriching communities. It’s simply amazing that one person can do this much work!

Sarah was raised on a farm in New England, and spent her early career working as an instructor for Outward Bound. After reading Ivan Doig’s This House of Sky, she packed up and moved to Montana, where she began to turn her idea for Red Ants Pants into a reality. She learned to sew, taught herself the basics of the apparel business, and eventually moved to the small agricultural community of White Sulphur Springs, where Red Ants Pants opened for business. As you’ll hear, selling pants is just one aspect of Sarah’s larger vision—she’s using her company to build community, empower women, and bring together people of differing perspectives and backgrounds.

We had a very interesting conversation, and you’ll be blown away by Sarah’s focus, vision, and the staggering amount she has been able to accomplish. She talks about growing up in New England, and how her family helped to instill her relentless work ethic. She discusses her time teaching at Outward Bound, and how many of the lessons learned in that role have translated to her business. We chat about how the Red Ants Pants business model flies in the face of traditional MBA theories, and how her lack of business experience was actually a strength when starting the company. We also talk about how hard work in the outdoors builds self-confidence, as well as her future plans for the foundation. And as usual, we discuss impactful books, films, and the best advice she’s ever received.

This is a great episode, and I know you’ll enjoy it.  There’s a lot here, so be sure to check the episode notes for links to all that we discuss.  Enjoy!

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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:45 – How Sarah describes her work
3:55 – Sarah’s personal and professional background
6:00 – Approaching outdoor companies with the idea for Red Ants Pants
6:55 – Moving to White Sulphur Springs
8:40 – The influence of Ivan Doig’s writing
9:45 – Joining the community of White Sulphur Springs
12:00 – Importance of community for Sarah
13:10 – Sarah’s childhood career aspirations
14:20 – Outward Bound
18:00 – Laying the foundation for Red Ants Pants
20:45 – History of Sarah’s work ethic
22:00 – Weathering the financial crisis
25:10 – Sarah’s daily routines
27:45 – Lessons learned over the years
29:35 – Working to expand her comfort zone
31:20 – Red Ants Pants Music Festival
37:20 – Red Ants Pants Foundation
39:30 – Value of hard work in the outdoors
42:55 – Foundation success stories
45:45 – Future plans for the foundation
47:00 – Heroes and mentors
49:50 – Advantages of little business experience
51:00 – Favorite books
53:30 – Favorite films
54:35 – Hobbies
55:20 – Favorite international travel spots
56:00 – Most powerful outdoor experience
58:00 – Favorite location in the West
58:45 – Best advice ever received
59:50 – Request of the listeners
1:00:40 – Story of the name “Red Ants Pants”
1:01:00 – Connect with Sarah online
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“How Do You Read So Many Books?”

“How Do You Read So Many Books?”


That’s a question I get all the time, but the reality is I don’t think I read all that much. Even when he was president, Theodore Roosevelt read a book a day. Author Ryan Holiday plows through more books in one month than I do in four. So if I can read 40 books in a year, I consider that a relatively good effort.

There’s no secret “hack,” and no, I don’t speed read. But if I can force myself to follow the guidelines below, I’m able to enjoy a respectable number of books each year.

  1. Stash Books Everywhere – Wherever I am, I keep books within reach. One in my truck, one in my work bag, a pile on my bedside table, several around the house. That way, if I have a free moment, there’s no excuse for not reading a few pages here and there. Over time, those few pages add up to several books per year.
  2. Shun the Phone – This is the crux. No matter how interesting my stack of need-to-read books is, the distraction machine in my pocket is much more enticing to my monkey mind. Deleting social media apps, switching the phone on grayscale, installing apps such as Forest or Moment, or just turning the damn thing off helps. Truthfully, using my phone responsibly without falling prey to electronic attention theft is one of my biggest challenges, both for reading and life in general.
  3. No Brain Numbing – I avoid booze and Colorado’s finest flora, which theoretically allows me to be alert right up until I fall asleep and not abnormally groggy in the morning. Both are opportune times of day to read in uninterrupted stretches.
  4. Zen for Non-Hippies – Since 2012 I’ve tried my best to meditate daily for a minimum of 20 minutes. As I’ve racked up hundreds of hours “on the cushion” (or in my case, in a plain-old chair), my capacity to concentrate has significantly increased. Even more telling, when I fall off the meditation wagon for more than a few days, I notice my ability and desire to read suffer greatly.
  5. Kill the Idiot Box – My wife and I cut the cable cord years ago and just recently built bookshelves in our living room, which relegated the TV to a dark corner of the basement. Similar to the iPhone, most of the time I find TV a distraction that adds little long-term value to my life. When we want to watch a movie or game, we do so on our laptop via Hulu, Amazon, or Netflix. (I recently binged on a full season of Stranger Things when I was sick. So good.)
  6. Hair-Trigger Eject Button – If I find myself getting bogged down or not enjoying a book, I immediately quit reading it and move on to the next one. I did enough plodding through boring bullshit in college, so I’d rather not do that in my free time as an adult. But just because I eject a book doesn’t mean I’m done with it for good—some of my favorite books are ones that I once found boring, then rediscovered with great interest years later.
  7. Envision Mañana – Whether it’s reading, exercise, or cold showers, my first instinct is usually “Nah, I’ll do that later. I need to check my email.” But if I can momentarily pause and ask myself “Tomorrow, what will I wish I had done right now?,” the answer is almost always run/crank the water to cold/pick up the book. It’s simple, but far from easy. The more I focus on guideline #4, the easier this seems to be.

I obviously love reading, and my life has improved significantly thanks to the knowledge gained from books. But checking books off a list is not my end goal. The ultimate goals are to use my time wisely, set a good example for my family, and be content with myself—the ability to concentrate and read is simply a result of making progress toward those larger goals.

When reading consistently, I’m being proactive and not wasting time. When my reading trails off, it’s usually a sign that there is a larger problem at hand (e.g. too much time playing on the stupid iPhone.) To use a worn-out cliche, reading is the ol’ canary in the coal mine.

With the exception of #1 and #6, these guidelines apply to a whole host of other high-priority life activities—work, running, getting up early, or things that really matter like spending quality, non-distracted time with my family.

Speaking of books, here are a few that have shaped my thinking on shunning distraction, the importance of focus, setting priorities, and the resulting ability to read a lot.




Becca Skinner – Pursuing Her Passions in the West

Becca Skinner

Becca Skinner is a Bozeman-based photographer, writer, and adventurer whose work has taken her to some of the farthest corners of the globe. Growing up between Colorado and Wyoming, Becca was raised by adventurous and supportive parents who nurtured her love of the outdoors and her artistic endeavors. As a young woman, Becca’s genuine interest in social work and helping the less fortunate led to her winning grants to photograph post-Katrina New Orleans and post-tsunami Sumatra. Those experiences, and the body of work they produced, allowed Becca to pursue her passion of photography full time, and her career continues to grow and evolve in exciting ways.

As you’ll hear, Becca has been willing to be single-mindedly focused and take calculated risks to “make it” as a professional photographer. When she did not win a National Geographic Young Explorers Grant the first time she applied, she dusted herself off, re-focused her efforts, and was successful on her second try. After saving enough money, she struck out alone on a 32,000-mile road trip through the American West, living in her car, honing her craft, and continuing to build her portfolio. She has devised methods for staying positive in immensely uncomfortable situations, such as a cold, wet expedition in Vancouver’s coastal backcountry, which we discuss in detail. Despite her success, Becca remains humble and down to earth, and we had a very fun conversation.

We covered a wide range of subjects– we discussed her childhood in the West and how her family played such a formative role in shaping her career and life. We chatted about her experiences in New Orleans and Sumatra, and how the disaster victims’ attitudes toward the catastrophes varied so widely. We discussed her first road trip throughout the West and how she handled being alone for such long stretches. We also talked about the importance of having solid expedition teammates and the challenges of integrating back into day-to-day life after an intense trip. And of course, we covered favorite books, films, and the best advice she’s ever received.

If you don’t already, be sure to follow Becca on Instagram and other social media. Links to everything are in the episode notes. Enjoy!

Photo mentioned by Becca at 1:03:00

Header photo courtesy of Becca Skinner


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:50 – How Becca describes her work
3:25 – How Becca describes her photography
4:00 – Growing up in the West
5:15 – Early experiences in the outdoors with her parents
7:30 – First interest in photography
8:40 – Interest in social work and outdoor therapy
11:15 – Post-Katrina New Orleans and takeaways
16:00 – Nat Geo Young Explorers Grant
20:00 – Experience in Sumatra
21:30 – Different attitudes between New Orleans and Sumatra crisis responses
24:00 – Considering photography as a career
25:00 – Leaving on the 32,000-mile road trip
26:15 – Becca’s supportive parents
28:00 – Solitary time in Yosemite
33:20 – Early career
36:30 – End of the road trip
39:15 – Settling in Bozeman
41:20 – Wolves and Yellowstone
44:10 – Spending more nights outdoors than indoors
46:45 – Keeping a positive attitude in tough conditions
48:30 – Picking expedition partners
50:15 – Hardest expedition
53:20 – Being Here film
55:20 – Importance of public lands
57:50 – Favorite books
59:45 – Favorite films
1:00:50 – Unexpected hobbies
1:02:45 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:04:15 – Favorite location in the West
1:06:00 – Request of the listeners
1:07:05 – Connect with Becca online
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Brendan Leonard – Grinding It Out

Brendan Leonard

Brendan Leonard is a writer and creative whose stories about adventure in wild places have built him a loyal following in the outdoor world and beyond. Whether it’s writing for his blog Semi-Rad, authoring eight books, or making films such as his recent How to Run 100 Miles Brendan combines humor, introspection, and skilled storytelling in an authentic way that strikes a chord with a wide range of audiences. But as you’ll hear, Brendan’s secret ingredient to success in his creative pursuits is his ability to consistently focus in and grind out the hard work, week after week, year after year.

Brendan is an Iowa native who moved West to attend journalism school at the University of Montana. After struggling with alcohol addiction in his youth, the West’s wide-open spaces brought Brendan a much-needed change of scenery and the opportunity for a fresh start. What started as short hikes around Missoula transformed into an all-in obsession with rock climbing that eventually led to writing gigs with Outside, Men’s Journal, Alpinist, and other well-known publications. Brendan is a shining example of how persistence, hard work, and a willingness to bet on yourself can lead to a fulfilling life and career doing what you love.

We had a wide-ranging, fun, and hilarious conversation about his life and career, and we also managed to wander into a few completely unexpected topics. We chatted about Brendan’s “all-or-nothing” personality, and the challenges and rewards associated with being wired that way. We discussed his ability to focus on the process rather than the goal, and how that approach is beneficial when creating or pursuing an outdoor objective. We obviously talked about climbing, but also discussed ultramarathons, specifically his recent experience running a 103-mile race through the Colorado mountains. And as you’ve come to expect, we covered favorite books, films, and a long list of other interesting topics.

This interview was so much fun, and I really appreciate Brendan having me over to chat. I highly recommend his books 60 Meters to Anywhere and Make It Till You Make It, so be sure to check those out..  Also, watch his film “How To Run 100 Miles”– I’ve watched a ton of ultrarunning films, and this one is my favorite.  Check the episode notes for links to all of this and more. Hope you enjoy!

Header photo by Forest Woodward, headshot courtesy of Brendan Leonard


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:55 – How Brendan describes his work
4:00 – Growing up in Iowa
4:55 – Writing for the college newspaper
6:00 – Applying to journalism schools
7:45 – Falling in love with the outdoors in Montana
10:10 – Discovering rock climbing
12:00 – Deep thoughts on booze
15:35 – Soakers and non-soakers
18:30 – Lessons learned from endurance adventures
21:00 – Importance of process over goals
23:40 – The reality of the creative life
24:40 – Story of Semi-Rad
29:00 – The need for a grinding mentality
32:00 – Strategies for the new media landscape
33:10 – Brendan’s creative hustle
35:30 – Focusing on the art versus the bottomline
36:30 – Today’s work ethic versus five years ago
38:00 – Brendan’s daily routine
40:00 – Creating illustrations
41:35 – Other creatives that inspire Brendan
44:15 – Film inspiration
47:00 – Revisiting old work
49:00 – Dealing with reviews and online feedback
53:00 – Managing social media
55:15 – Importance of public lands and conservation
1:03:00 – Favorite books about the West
1:09:00 – Favorite films
1:12:45 – Surprising activities
1:14:30 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:18:50 – Favorite location in the West
1:22:00 – Best piece of advice ever recieved
1:27:00 – Request of the listeners
1:29:15 – Connect with Brendan online
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Jason Rich – The Humility and Hard Work of Creativity

Jason Rich

Jason Rich is a Utah-based artist whose extraordinary paintings of life in the American West have made him one of the most popular and respected working artists today. Throughout his 20-year career, Jason has won countless awards and is represented by some of the most prestigious galleries in the West. But what is more telling is the respect and admiration he has earned from many of his cowboy artist contemporaries– as you’ll hear, Jason is amazingly humble, gracious, and grateful for his career in professional art.

Growing up in Idaho, art has been a central part of Jason’s life for as long as he can remember. He was formally educated as an artist, and immediately after graduate school, he committed himself fully to painting professionally. Thanks to his focus, work ethic, and the support of his wife, Jason was able to carve out a niche for himself in the competitive world of Western art. Two decades later, Jason’s popularity continues to grow, which is partly a product of his constant drive to push outside his comfort zone and mature as an artist.

Jason and I had a fun conversation, and we dug into the many aspects of his life as an artist, family man, and admirer of the American West. We discussed his upbringing in Idaho, and how he developed the confidence and skills to go directly from grad school to professional art. We chatted about his techniques for challenging himself as an artist and how his work has evolved over the last two decades.  We also talked about his association with the prestigious Cowboy Artists of America, and how spending time with other talented artists has influenced his work. We covered mentors, favorite books, favorite artists, and much more, so be sure to check out the episode notes for a complete list of everything discussed.

Thanks again to Jason for taking the time to chat. Hope you enjoy!

All images courtesy of Jason Rich

 


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:20 – How Jason describes his work
3:35 – How Jason describes his art
4:50 – Jason’s childhood
5:40 – Family history in the West
7:00 – Early memories of art
9:30 – Education in art education
10:30 – Decision to pursue art full time
11:00 – Graduate school
12:00 – Transition to professional artist
14:30 – What gave Jason the confidence to pursue art
17:00 – When did Jason know he had “made it” as an artist
21:30 – Jason’s daily routine
25:00 – Jason’s need to push himself artistically
28:55 – Artists that have influenced Jason’s work
31:40 – Humbleness + Discontent
32:20 – Cowboy Artists of America
34:25 – Ensuring historical accuracy
37:40 – Unchanged nature of ranching through the ages
38:10 – Changes in Jason’s art over the last 15 years
42:40 – Approaching art as a business
46:50 – Advice to his younger year old self
49:15 – Favorite books
50:50 – Favorite films
52:45 – Other hobbies
54:55 – Most powerful outdoor experience
56:20 – Favorite place in the West
57:40 – Best advice ever received
58:30 – Request of the listeners
59:45 – Connect with Jason online
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Words of Wisdom for Anyone Who Loves the West

This article originally appeared on Palmer Land Trust’s blog as part of their #CelebrateLand campaign.

Ed’s Story: Words of Wisdom for Anyone Who Loves the West

Toward the end of each of my podcast episodes, I ask guests if they’d like to make a request of the listeners, impart words of wisdom, or offer advice. Because the podcast revolves around the landscapes and people of the American West, almost every guest provides sage guidance that, if followed, would surely make the West an even better place– conservation, open-mindedness, curiosity, and a general respect for the land and our neighbors are common themes. Since I’m the host, I rarely interject my opinions, but I have thought long and hard about how I would answer this question.

My request to anyone who loves the West is simple: Go outside and have an adventure.

I grew up far from the Rocky Mountains, on the flat, sandy coastal plain of eastern North Carolina. Much of my childhood was spent knee-deep in a creek that bisected my neighborhood, catching frogs, building dams, and constructing forts from downed trees. Those foundational backyard hijinks evolved into more substantial adventures in my teens, including rafting the Grand Canyon with my dad and trudging up Mt. Yale during a high school leadership retreat in Colorado. The adventures intensified through my 20s and 30s, and much to my delight, they have now reached a point of ridiculousness beyond what any reasonable person would consider “fun.”

While I’ve always been keenly focused on ticking outdoor goals off my list, I have recently come to understand the much-more-valuable impact of decades spent in the outdoors. Without my realizing it, the outdoors– specifically the wide-open landscapes of the American West– had become the central thread that connected almost every meaningful aspect of my life.

Experiences in wild places had shaped my value system, affected my career choices, helped me forge deep friendships, and allowed me to expand my physical and mental limits. My personal goals, political views, hobbies, and even reading habits were all heavily influenced by open space. Without this love of land, I would not have met my wife, and our daughter would not have been born. Other than the invaluable relationships with my parents and sister, every important element of my life is a product of time spent in wild places.

That realization a few years ago changed my perspective on the importance of protecting public and private landscapes. I no longer viewed land as a vehicle through which I could generate income, but rather a precious, non-renewable resource that should be stewarded with the utmost respect. My definition of progress was flipped on its head. The “legacy of conquest” that has defined the West for so long became unappealing (to say the least), and I began to align myself with people and organizations committed to a legacy of sustainability. Given this newfound awareness, I had no choice but to focus more of my time and energy toward protecting and stewarding the land.

History shows that without a counterbalance, unfettered economic interests will exhaust natural resources. The land will not protect itself, which is exactly why the work of Palmer Land Trust and other conservation organizations is so vital. I encourage you to find a group working to protect a place you love, then help them out however you can.

At the very least, go outside. Have an adventure, whether that’s catching a frog or running 100 miles through the mountains. It will change your life for the better.


To learn more about Palmer Land Trust and the important work it is doing to conserve Colorado’s open spaces, check out this video or visit the PLT website.

Book Club Selection: “All the Wild That Remains” by David Gessner

March-April Book Club Selection: “All the Wild That Remains” by David Gessner


When I’ve asked podcast guests to named their favorite books, time and again they reference titles by Wallace Stegner and Edward Abbey. No matter your political persuasion, occupation, or personal background, if you love the West, you’ve likely been influenced by at least one of these men’s work. Love them or hate them, these two men have defined much of the modern-day narrative surrounding the American West.

On the surface, the two men couldn’t have been more different. Abbey was by most accounts a hard-drinking, womanizing, take-no-prisoners environmental warrior who would consider any means, no matter how nefarious, to achieve his desired ends. Stegner was just the opposite—a proper, dignified Stanford college professor who expressed his love for western landscapes in a much more measured, within-social-norms approach. Fascinating men who were as personally complicated as they were influential.  

We need to learn more about them! So the March-April book club selection is:

All The Wild That Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West by David Gessner

All the Wild That Remains is a double biography of the two men, written by the ultra-talented (and ultra-hilarious) David Gessner. Gessner not only provides the basic, expected biographical narrative, but also thoroughly analyzes the contradictions and complexities of the two men. I read the book two years ago* and absolutely loved it. It opened my eyes to just how thoroughly Stegner and Abbey have infiltrated all aspects of thought regarding the modern-day West. It also reminded me that no person is as simple as their manicured public image. (*My wife and I are expecting our second child in the next three weeks, so I picked a book I could revisit rather than try to read for the first time while in a sleep deprived stupor!)

It’s worth nothing that Gessner is a proud environmentalist, so some of his ideas on the development of the West and its resources may come across to some as a bit biased. But we’re all biased in one way or another, so I’d recommend approaching the book with an open mind, just as you did with American Wolf.

For further reference, here’s an informative book review from the Wall Street Journal. It gives a solid overview of what you can expect. I’m very excited to discuss with all of you and hear your reactions to Gessner, Stegner, Abbey, and their roles in the West!


If you’d like to participate:

  • Grab a copy of All the Wild that Remains—purchase it from Amazon or your local bookseller, or check it out from your local library. Start reading.
  • Head over to our Goodreads Group. Create an account, then join in the conversation in the online discussion forum. As you read, give your feedback on the book, pose questions to the group, and share your first-hand experience reading Stegner and Abbey. The only way this works is with lot of participation from lots of people, so the more the better.
  • Keep your eyes peeled for an announcement on Goodreads regarding a live online discussion of the book via Google Hangouts. The number of video participants will be limited to 25, but any number of people can interact with the discussion by typing. This event will likely happen at the end of April, and I will set the exact date and time early that month.

Mountain & Prairie Book Club – Goodreads Group

 


Not interested in Stegner, Abbey, or All the Wild That Remains? Then get started on the May-June Book Club selection: The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire That Saved America by Timothy Egan.  This book will be read in conjunction with the Diablo Trust Book Club, a well-established book club facilitated by Diablo Trust, an Arizona land conservation organization. More details will be announced in early May.

Jim Howell, Part II – Restoring Ecological Capital Through Grazing

Jim Howell

Longtime listeners of the podcast will definitely remember my first interview with Jim Howell—he is a rancher and CEO of Grasslands LLC, a progressive ranch management company with operations in the American West, Florida, and New Zealand. Jim was also a co-founder of the Savory Institute, a non-profit organization that espouses the use of holistic planned grazing to restore healthy grasslands around the world. Having worked close to the land his entire career, Jim has a fascinating personal and professional backstory, so I encourage you to listen to our first episode, if you haven’t already.

Knowing that many Mountain & Prairie podcast listeners either work in ranching or are interested in holistic ranch management, Jim and I decided to have a second conversation focused on more of the nitty gritty details of his process for managing ranches. We discuss a wide range of topics, from how Jim and his investors identify ranches as potential acquisitions to their methods for increasing stocking rates while simultaneously improving the health of the grass. We discuss the intense, focused planning that goes into each operation, and Jim explains how his grazing process translates into increased biodiversity and improved ecological health of the entire landscape. This conversation is like a college class in ranch management, only much more fun and engaging.

Cinch Buckle Ranch

Our conversation revolves around two of Grasslands’ eastern Montana ranches—the 53,000+/- acre Antelope Springs Ranch and the 38,000+/- acre Cinch Buckle Ranch. My Mirr Ranch Group colleague Duffy Brown and I are working with Jim to market both of these ranches, so we’re familiar with the operations and landscapes and understand the amazing results that Jim and his team have been able to achieve. Both ranches serve as excellent case studies of how holistic management can bolster the health of the grass, increase profitability, and be a true winning proposition for the land, animals, and all other stakeholders.

Antelope Springs Ranch

Even if you don’t have a specific interest in ranches or grasslands, you’ll still get a lot out of this episode. Jim has very wise answers to some of the quick questions that I didn’t ask during our first interview, and he offers plenty of great book recommendations, including one book that Jim thinks every college freshman should read. The episode is packed with great information, so don’t forget to check the episode notes. Jim is a hardworking, curious, humble, and smart guy who has managed to create a fulfilling career that’s making the world a better place, so I know you’ll enjoy the conversation.

All photos courtesy of Jim Howell & Grasslands LLC


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:00 – How Jim describes his work
5:20 – Overview of the Savory Institute and Grasslands
8:40 – Grasslands’ work in the northern Great Plains ranches
10:40 – Traits of successful ranches that are common across many geographies
12:25 – Cool season grasses of the Northern Great Plains
15:15 – Importance of water on Great Plains ranches
16:20 – Benefits of being in marginal wheat production territory
19:25 – History of the cattle business on the Great Plains
23:30 – Resilience of eastern Montana’s landscape
24:30 – Increasing stocking rates
26:00 – Increasing grassland health on the ranches
27:10 – Techniques for increasing stocking rates
31:55 – Allowing for sufficient recovery without under-grazing
34:00 – The extra intellectual effort of planned grazing
36:45 – Compounding consequences of decisions on a grazing season
39:00- The hard lessons of experience
39:45 – Specific tools for managing grazing
45:10 – Evolution of mapping during Jim’s career
46:00 – Improvements to Cinch Buckle and Antelope Springs Ranches
48:45 – Ability to generate profits AND replenishing ecological capital
53:30 – Ranches as an investment for a non-ranching buyers
55:00 – Full-care grazing versus owning cattle
1:00:30 – Upward trajectory of both ranches
1:02:00 – Importance of relationships with local government entities
1:04:10 – What Jim looks for in employees
1:07:30 – Specific books about grass and holistic ranching
1:11:00 – Best book Jim has read in the last year
1:13:45 – Favorite book of all time
1:16:20 – Best piece of advice Jim’s ever received
Information Referenced

Brian Calvert – In-Depth Journalism in the New West

Brian Calvert

Brian Calvert is the Editor-in-Chief of the High Country News, a non-profit media organization that covers the defining stories of the American West. Since 1970, High Country News has been fully committed to in-depth journalism that explores complex relationships between the West’s communities, business interests, and the natural world. In our current media climate that seems to celebrate surface-level, hastily written news stories, High Country News remains committed to long-form, well-researched, and nuanced explorations of complicated issues.

Brian is a fourth-generation Wyoming native who grew up in Pinedale at the base of the spectacular Wind River Range. A blue-collar upbringing, a stint in the Army, time working in the oil fields, and years spent overseas as a foreign correspondent have given Brian a unique and valuable perspective into the relationship between people and place. This depth of experience allows Brian to approach Western issues with a curious, patient, and balanced style that is becoming more and more rare in today’s media.

I was on Colorado’s Western Slope for work and stopped by the High Country News office in Paonia to chat with Brian. We had a fascinating conversation about the history of High Country News and how its commitment to in-depth journalism is more important now than ever. We discussed Brian’s upbringing in Wyoming, and why he chose to pursue journalism as a career.  We talked about his time spent as a foreign correspondent in places like Cambodia, China, and Afghanistan, as well as the lessons he learned from living in such intense and sometimes dangerous environments. And as you’ve come to expect, we discussed his favorite books, authors, and places in the American West.

There’s a lot to learn in this episode, so please check out the episode notes for links to everything we discuss. Also, please visit the High Country News website or consider ordering a print subscription. Brian and his team are doing important work that deserves support from thoughtful, curious folks like the listeners of this podcast. Enjoy!

Headshot courtesy of Brian Calvert


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:35 – How Brian describes his work
3:15 – History of the High Country News
5:30 – Moving HCN to Paonia
7:00 – HCN’s non-profit model
12:15 – Current shifts in modern journalism
15:30 – Challenges of producing in-depth news in the age of Twitter
21:40 – Thoughts on the rawness of the West
24:00 – Brian’s early years in Pinedale
26:25 – Joining the Army and National Guard
27:00 – Desire to write and see the world
28:20 – Adventurous childhood
30:45 – From college to foreign correspondent
33:33 – Working in Cambodia
35:20 – Where Brian was on 9/11
36:30 – Moving back to WY and working in the oil fields
40:55 – Scary events overseas
45:00 – Adjusting to US after life in war zones
47:00 – Learning to surf and surfing as a healing process
49:45 – Being selected for the Ted Scripps Fellowship
51:00 – Opportunity at HCN
53:20 – In-depth journalism in the era of “fake news”
55:25 – Importance of high values in unbiased journalism
1:00:00 – Importance of considering all sides of arguments
1:02:15 – Role of HCN in journalism for a diverse readership
1:05:30 – Favorite books about the West
1:07:50 – The American West as an idea
1:11:30 – Interesting and weird hobbies
1:12:25 – Poetry
1:14:20 – Favorite location in the West
1:15:35 – Best advice ever receive
1:16:00 – Request of the listeners
1:17:00 – Connect with Brian
Information Referenced

Christine Su – The Business of Healthy Grasslands

Christine Su, PastureMap CEO

Christine Su is an entrepreneur and CEO of PastureMap, a Silicon Valley startup that creates cutting-edge ranch management software. PastureMap helps ranchers plan grazing, track forage, monitor herd performance, manage record keeping, and much more, all with the goal of saving ranchers time and making their operations more profitable. In the business of ranching—one that has not changed much in the past 100 years—PastureMap is a true breakthrough, and Christine’s innovative mindset and infectious enthusiasm are two of the root drivers of the company’s success.

Christine grew up in an entrepreneurial family, and she has had a lifelong curiosity about agriculture and the importance of food production. After building an impressive resume that includes undergraduate and graduate degrees from Stanford, a stint at McKinsey & Company, and experience in private equity, Christine combined her business expertise with her passion for agriculture to form PastureMap. PastureMap makes active or holistic management a more realistic option for ranchers, creating ripple effects far beyond the ranchers’ bottom lines—healthier grass, increased biodiversity, stronger communities, and continued viable domestic food production.

As you’ll hear in our conversation, Christine is a truly dynamic person whose passion for agriculture is matched by her intellect and entrepreneurial acumen.  We cover all the details of PastureMap and how she built the business from a simple idea to a successful enterprise. We discuss her personal background and why she initially became so curious about agriculture around the world.  We also chat about the ins and outs of active ranch management, and how a holistic approach to grazing can have far-reaching benefits beyond agriculture. As you’d expect, Christine also has plenty of excellent book recommendations related to agriculture, which I know you will enjoy.

For all of you ranchers out there, Christine is offering a 10% off coupon for a year’s subscription to PastureMap, and you can claim it by using the code “PRAIRIE” on the PastureMap website.  Check out the episode notes for all the details.  But whether you’re a rancher or not, I hope you’ll enjoy this episode.  Christine is a perfect example of someone who has merged her passion and expertise into a financially successful business that is making the world a better place.  Enjoy!

All photos courtesy of Christine Su


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:55 – Christine gives an overview of PastureMap
5:10 – How Christine came up with the idea for PastureMap
7:10 – Decision to take a break from business to work on a farm
9:45 – The importance of working ranches for healthy grasslands and a healthy planet
12:50 – Explaining grazing to environmentalists
15:30 – Impactful books about grazing
17:30 – Helping ranchers to see the value of PastureMap
20:20 – PastureMaps success stories
24:00 – How Christine expects PastureMap to evolve in the coming years
28:35 – Christine’s childhood and father’s entrepreneurial ventures
30:20 – Goals when entering Stanford
32:10 – Biggest surprise of entreprenuership
34:45 – Of all sectors, why Christine focused her start up on agriculture
37:55 – Heroes and mentors in the ag world
39:50 – Heroes of the business world
42:10 – Life lessons learned from working with agricultural producers
45:15 – Favorite books
46:15 – Favorite films
47:35 – Christine’s hobbies, including jumping in cold water
50:00 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
52:10 – Favorite place in the West
52:50 – Best advice she’s ever received
53:20 – Request of the listeners
54:08 – Connect with Christine and PastureMap
Information Referenced

Robert Krapfel – On Living A Purpose-Driven Life

Robert Krapfel at work

Robert Krapfel is a US Forest Service smokejumper—a member of the elite team of wildland firefighters who parachute into remote, burning landscapes to control some of our country’s most intense forest fires. Prior to joining the smokejumpers, Robert was a fish biologist with the US Fish and Wildlife Service, where he worked on restoring several species of fish in the lower Colorado River system. You may also know Robert as the husband of my previous guest Jillian Lukiwski, and if so, you’ve likely admired stunning photographs of them fishing, hunting, and exploring far-flung corners of the American West.

Growing up in Northern California, Robert was always focused on pushing himself hard in the outdoors, learning new skills, and establishing a sense of self-sufficiency in wild places. As a teenager, he taught himself to fish and hunt, and early in his career, he learned how to operate heavy machinery while rebuilding a remote government satellite station in the Arizona desert. Robert’s intense curiosity and action-oriented mindset have allowed him to build a life centered around adventure and rugged landscapes, while simultaneously being of service to our country and stewarding the forests of the West.

Because Robert has almost no social media presence, not many people outside his immediate circle of friends and family truly grasp what a unique life he leads, nor do they understand the vital role he played in the creation of Jillian’s blog and jewelry business, The Noisy Plume. Robert and Jillian are true partners in every sense of the word, and their approach to business, adventure, and living an authentic, purpose-driven life can be instructive for couples and individuals alike. They pursue their goals as a team and have sacrificed much along the way to turn their dreams into realities.

Robert is a perfect guest for this podcast, because his career and interests touch on almost everything that fascinates me—the West, adventure, service, creativity, hunting, fishing, travel, conservation, ecology, and plenty more. We obviously cover a lot in this episode, including the ins and outs of his becoming a smokejumper and his scariest experience while fighting fires. We discuss his work as a fish biologist, and how he and Jillian spent a year living in the Arizona desert in a rat-infested trailer. Robert also has a unique educational background, which we discuss in detail. And of course we talk about the creation of the Noisy Plume, and how Jillian’s and his vision for the project has evolved over time. And for a podcast that is always heavy on book recommendations, this episode is particularly full of good titles.

This is a great episode, so I know you’ll enjoy it. As I mentioned, Robert isn’t on social media, but you can catch glimpses of him every now and then on Jillian’s Instagram account, so be sure to follow her at @thenoisyplume. Enjoy!

Robert in the backcountry during hunting season

All photos courtesy of Jillian Lukiwski


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

5:00 – How Robert describes his work
5:50 – How he got involved in smokejumping
8:00 – How smokejumpers are selected
10:00 – Importance of integrity in smokejumping
11:20 – Robert’s desire to challenge himself physically and mentally
13:10 – Growing up in northern California
13:55 – Teaching himself to fish and hunt
16:10 – Importance of learning by doing
17:20 – Robert’s educational path
18:40 – College in Alaska
19:20 – Decision to attend Bible college in Montana
20:50 – Train jumping in Montana (and the ensuing accident!)
25:00 – Recovering from a broken back
27:00 – Finishing school at Wheaton College
28:00 – College versus all of Robert’s varied interests
28:40 – Eloping with Jillian
30:40 – Working as a fish biologist
32:20 – Moving to a satellite station in the desert
33:00 – Endangered fish in the lower Colorado
35:00 – Arriving at the abandoned, rat-crap covered trailer
37:20 – Lessons learned from the time in Arizona
39:25 – Marriage benefits of living in stressful conditions
40:30 – Robert’s role in the creation of The Noisy Plume
43:20 – Original versus current vision for The Noisy Plume
46:25 – The importance of authenticity
47:00 – Why Robert avoids social media
48:25 – Robert’s choice to leave biology and focus completely on fire
50:30 – Rookie smokejumper training
54:30 – Tree climbing as a scary aspect of smokejumping
56:30 – Scariest experience fighting fires
1:02:30 – Readjusting to life after fire season
1:04:50 – Good books about fire
1:06:00 – Best biology books
1:08:30 – Favorite books about the West
1:10:50 – Favorite documentaries and films
1:12:50 – Unexpected hobbies
1:13:45 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:15:40 – Favorite location in the West
1:17:45 – Best advice ever received
1:18:45 – Request of the listeners
Information Referenced

Profitable Ranching & Grassland Restoration in Eastern Montana

Head over to the Mirr Ranch Group blog to read more about the unique investment value of Cinch Buckle and Antelope Springs Ranches. Not only can buyers expect predictable financial returns, but they can also enjoy the satisfaction of knowing that they are bolstering a massive swath of prairie grasslands—healing the land, increasing biodiversity, and sequestering carbon from the atmosphere.

Cattle Ranches for Investment-Minded Buyers

“The Cinch Buckle and Antelope Springs Ranches are managed by Grasslands, LLC, a renowned ranch management company and global leader in Holistic Planned Grazing. On both ranches, Grasslands’ focused management techniques have restored the grasses and strengthened the landscapes’ overall ecological diversity, leading to increased livestock capacity on both ranches. The increased capacity, combined with Grasslands’ extensive investment in water infrastructure and ranch improvements, has allowed them to enjoy a level of profitability that would have been unimaginable on these ranches years ago.”

Book Club Selection: “American Wolf” by Nate Blakeslee

January-February Book Club Selection: “American Wolf” by Nate Blakeslee


During my podcast interview with renowned historian and author Dan Flores, I asked him to name his favorite books about the American West. He mentioned several classics, and then went on to describe in glowing terms a not-yet-released book about wolves in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. Dan, the author of two of my all-time favorites—Coyote America and American Serengeti—described the book as “The Game of Thrones story of modern western wolves, [unfolding] in just as riveting a fashion. It is an absolutely mesmerizing read.”

The book has since been released, and if it’s is good enough for Dan, it’s good enough for us! So the January-February 2018 selection for the Mountain & Prairie Book Club is:

American Wolf: A True Story of Survival and Obsession in the West by Nate Blakeslee

Wolves are a delicate subject here in the West, and most discussions of the legendary canine are sure to evoke strong reactions from anyone connected to the region. The animal and its influence touch almost every aspect of life in the West, including agriculture, hunting, conservation, ecology, government, sociology, tourism, and environmentalism, just to name a few. It’s difficult to understand the modern-day West without understanding wolves, so this should be an interesting and informative read.

Given the lightening-rod status of wolves in the West, this book selection and the ensuing discussion will serve as a revealing test case to determine if this book club will be a civil and productive endeavor. As you know, the Mountain & Prairie Book Club only has one rule: Be Nice. Please keep that front of mind as you read and discuss with the group. We all love the West and are here to learn from each other, so please Be Nice.


If you’d like to participate:

  • Grab a copy of American Wolf — purchase it from Amazon or your local bookseller, or check it out from your local library. Start reading it.
  • Head over to our Goodreads Group. Create an account, then join in the conversation in the online discussion forum. As you read, give your feedback on the book, pose questions to the group, and share your first-hand experience with wolves in the West. The only way this works is with lot of participation from lots of people, so the more the better.
  • Keep your eyes peeled for an announcement on Goodreads regarding a live online discussion of the book via Google Hangouts. The number of video participants will be limited to 25, but any number of people can interact with the discussion by typing. This event will likely happen the second full week of March, and I will set the exact date and time in late-February.
  • We’ll usually have two full months to read the selected book, but since we’re starting in late January, we’ll be on a modified schedule for American Wolf.  From now until the group discussion in mid-March, you’ll have 6+/- weeks to read the book. In the future, count on 8+/- weeks per book. (We’re expecting our second child to arrive in late March, so I want to have one full reading-discussion cycle complete prior to her birth and resulting crazy schedule. Thanks for understanding.)

 

Mountain & Prairie Book Club – Goodreads Group

 


Not interested in wolves or American Wolf?  Then get started on the March-April Book Club selection: All the Wild That Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West by David Gessner.  The official announcement will be in early March.

Jillian Lukiwski – Art and Adventure in the American West

Jillian Lukiwski, in the backcountry

Jillian Lukiwski is a writer, photographer, and silversmith who lives near the banks of the Snake River in south central Idaho. Her quiet confidence and deliberate approach to living have allowed Jillian to blaze her own trail, creating a rewarding career and an authentic life centered around Idaho’s unique landscape. When not working, Jillian and her husband Robert enjoy the western lifestyle from every imaginable angle—bird hunting with their german shorthair pointers, big game hunting, fishing, running, horseback riding, mountain biking, caring for their farm animals, and cultivating their land, to name a few.

Big western landscapes have always been an important part of Jillian’s life—her father worked for Canada’s National Park Service, so she was raised with a deep appreciation for the outdoors and adventure. From an early age, she was riding—and falling off of—horses, shadowing her father in the backcountry, and building a personal foundation of self-sufficiency and toughness. As a young woman, she applied that ingrained tenacity to writing, photography, and creating jewelry, and has since built a loyal following of admirers and customers around the world through her website, The Noisy Plume.

We had a fun conversation and managed to cover a wide range of interesting topics. We discussed her life path that eventually landed her in southeastern Idaho, and we chatted about the unique nature of that region. We talked about her creative process, how she’s been mostly self-taught in all of her art forms, and how she is able to manage the distractions of social media and the online world. We chatted about the importance of being uncomfortable, and how self-imposed physical and mental challenges can help to inoculate yourself against the inevitable difficulties of life. Jillian is a voracious reader, so we had a great discussion about books, as well as how reading has contributed to her success as a writer.  Be sure to check the episode notes for a full list of everything we discussed.

This was a fun and inspiring interview, and I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did!

All photos courtesy of Jillian Lukiwski


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:50 – How Jillian describes her work
3:20 – Jillian’s home in Idaho
4:40 – How she ended up in southeastern Idaho
7:00 – Description of Pocatello and the surrounding landscape
9:10 – Growing up in Canada’s National Parks
10:50 – Childhood in the outdoors
13:00 – Lessons i toughness learned from her father
16:40 – Jillian’s university experience
18:50 – Jillian’s drive to be her own boss
19:45 – Her early attraction to jewelry
21:00 – First silversmithing class
22:50 – Being a self-taught artist
24:25 – Her quest for original ideas
26:20 – Avoiding social media distraction
28:20 – Daily routines and must-do activities
31:10 – Running
35:20 – Hunting and her relationship with her bird dogs
40:00 – The reality of posting hunting images on social media
44:10 – Why Jillian seeks out discomfort
48:35 – Stories of suffering and benefits of those experiences
50:30 – Advice for those seeking a life similar to Jillian’s
52:15 – Favorite books
56:20 – How reading has affected her writing
59:45 – More books
1:01:00 – Favorite movies
1:03:15 – Unexpected talents
1:04:30 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:06:45 – Favorite location in the West
1:09:20 – Biggest challenge facing the West
1:12:00 – Jillian’s request of the listeners
1:12:59 – Connect with Jillian online
Information Referenced

Thoughts While Driving Through South Park

Last night’s sunset in South Park, Colorado

South Park, Colorado. A 1,000-square mile high-altitude basin. Expansive grasslands surrounded by towering snow-capped peaks, located just 70 miles west of the booming Denver metro area. In early summer, South Park is one of the most stunning landscapes in all the West—lush emerald meadows, herds of grazing deer, elk, and pronghorn, and cascading snowmelt that forms the headwaters of the South Platte River. In winter, it’s not for the faint of heart—sub-zero temperatures for days on end, gales that regularly knock 18 wheelers on their side, and blowing snow that reduces visibility to nothing.

Like most resource-rich areas of the West, South Park’s human history has been, and continues to be, one of conflict and conquest. The Utes and the Arapahos fought to control the basin’s rich hunting grounds. Then came the French and Spanish trappers whose insatiable appetite for beaver pelts all but eliminated the species from the basin. They were followed by miners, who were followed by ranchers, who were followed by developers, who were followed by present-day water speculators, all competing to squeeze a profit out of a delicate ecosystem with limited resources.

So who’s right and who’s wrong? Who deserves to capitalize on South Park’s resources and who doesn’t? Your answer likely depends on your upbringing, who pays your salary, your political leanings, what you do for fun, and an unknowable number of variables that make you a unique human. I have my opinions, but if I fed my family by working in the mining industry, would I feel differently? Probably so.

There are no simple, Twitter-length solutions to South Park’s challenges, or to the challenges of the American West. It’s a complicated and messy place—has been and always will be. But personal experience has shown me that most of us who love the West share more commonalities than differences, no matter our backgrounds or politics. Keep reading deeply, being curious, seeking out opinions different from your own. We’re all in this together, so we best start focusing on the common ground.


Book recommendation for further reading: Bayou Salado: The Story of South Park by Virginia McConnell Simmons


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My 10 Favorite Books of 2017

My 10 Favorite Books of 2017


2017 was a solid year of reading that played out even better than expected—I discovered some older titles that I should’ve read long ago, enjoyed some new releases that I’d been anxiously awaiting, and had the opportunity to meet and chat with several of my favorite authors. As usual, the books’ subjects varied widely, and I hard-headedly stuck to 100% non-fiction.

It was difficult (silly? pointless?) to try and pick the absolute best books I read last year, but below, in no particular order, is my feeble attempt at My 10 Favorite Books of 2017:


Cattle Kingdom: The Hidden History of the Cowboy West by Christopher Knowlton – The most entertaining and comprehensive history of cattle ranching in the American West that I’ve ever read… and I’ve read a lot on this subject. (November/December list)

Bad Land: An American Romance by Jonathan Raban – Interesting and new (to me) insights into the settlement of Montana’s eastern Great Plains, with an eye-opening emphasis on the role that corporations and the government played in convincing (i.e. tricking) would-be settlers to head West. (September/October list)

American Serengeti: The Last Big Animals of the Great Plains by Dan Flores – A “biography” of North American megafauna, including pronghorn, coyotes, horses, grizzlies, bison, and wolves. A must read for anyone who loves the American West. (July/August list)

Coyote America: A Natural and Supernatural History by Dan Flores – Coyotes are the most scorned large mammal in North America, yet they’re surprisingly the most human-like in their behavior. A wonderful overview of this fascinating animal and its complicated relationship with us humans. (May/June list)

On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder – A short and to-the-point historical examination of how well-meaning countries fell prey to fascist rulers and tyrannical governments. Timely reading in this day and age. (July/August list)

All Waves are Water: Stumbling Toward Enlightenment and the Perfect Ride by Jaimal Yogis – Part memoir, part meditation manifesto, and part surf travelogue, Yogis nails it again with his follow-up to one of my all-time favorites, Saltwater Buddha. (July/August list)

Free Will by Sam Harris – Harris argues that free will is an illusion and that no one is truly in control of themselves or their actions. I don’t want to believe this, but, despite my best efforts, it’s tough for me to poke holes in his rationale. (September/October list)

What Doesn’t Kill Us: How Freezing Water, Extreme Altitude and Environmental Conditioning Will Renew Our Lost Evolutionary Strength by Scott Carney – Since reading this book, I’ve taken a freezing-cold shower every day. And even after pushing the breathing exercises a little too far, passing out, and “bumping” my face on the floor, I’m still a huge fan! (March/April list)

Hellhound on his Trail: An Electrifying Account of the Largest Manhunt in American History by Hampton Sides – The true story of the nutjob loner who assassinated Martin Luther King Jr. and the ensuing international manhunt that followed. Hampton Sides never disappoints. (January/February list)

Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War by Robert Coram – A deep dive into the mind of an obsessed, unconventional, take-no-shit-from-anybody soldier, whose commitment to his craft changed the course of US military history. (March/April list)





Matt Barber & Joel Doub – Stewards of a Fly Fishing Legacy

Matt Barber (photo credit: Paige McAfee)

Matt Barber and Joel Doub are the owners of Tom Morgan Rodsmiths, a Bozeman-based fly rod company known for its unyielding commitment to quality, craftsmanship, and enduring performance. The duo purchased the company in early 2017 from Tom Morgan, a fly fishing legend who, along with his wife Gerri, built the company into one of the world’s most unique and renowned rod builders. Rather than focus on the latest fads or selling a high volume of products, Tom was dedicated solely to building the highest quality rod, one that could be passed on from generation to generation, decade after decade.

Joel Doub (photo credit: Paige McAfee)

You may be surprised to learn that Matt and Joel are not fishing industry veterans—their previous careers were in education and medical device sales, respectively. But when Tom Morgan decided to sell the company, Matt and Joel’s passion for fly fishing, their willingness to learn from the best, and their commitment to continuing the company’s legacy allowed them to stand out from the crowd of competing buyers. To everyone’s dismay, Tom passed away unexpectedly soon after the sale of the company, but only after imparting his wisdom, craftsmanship secrets, and high standards to Matt and Joel. Building on Tom and Gerri’s rock-solid foundation, the company is now entering its next phase, and the future has never looked brighter.

Matt and Joel were in Denver for the annual Fly Fishing Show, so we met up to chat about the company and their journey into fly fishing entrepreneurship. We talked at length about Tom and his laser-like focus on quality, and how he was willing to snap a rod in half if it did not meet his high standards. We chatted about the “secret” to making these rods, which mostly boils down to being willing to work harder than anyone else. We talk about Tom’s unique partnership with his wife Gerri, and how the couple went about transferring decades of knowledge and experience to Matt and Joel. We discuss the company’s unique business model, and how it flies in the face of most mainstream, MBA business theories. And as usual, we discuss favorite books, films, crazy outdoor experiences, and plenty more.

This was a very fun conversation, and I’m excited to watch the company continue to grow and thrive under Matt and Joel’s ownership. Be sure to check out the episode notes for everything we discuss, and follow Tom Morgan Rodsmiths on Instagram and other social media. Enjoy!

Hard at work in the shop (photo credit: Paige McAfee)

All photos courtesy of Paige McAfee


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:00 – How Matt and Joel describe their work
3:25 – Their professional backgrounds
4:50 – Overview of Tom Morgan Rodsmiths
6:40 – How Tom and Gerri and began building rods
7:20 – Tom and Gerri’s first time building a rod
8:15 – Tom’s quest for a “perfect fly rod”
9:50 – Specifics on Tom Morgan custom rods
13:00 – Why the rods do not have fancy names
14:30 – The “secret” to Tom Morgan rods
17:40 – TMR’s business model
20:45 – Why they purchased an “unconventional” business
23:50 – How they’ve been received as the new owners
26:55 – How the Tom Morgan philosophy has carried over into other parts of life
29:15 – Their history as “makers”
32:30 – Thoughts on life in Bozeman
36:20 – The process of buying the business
40:00 – What Tom and Gerri like about Matt and Joel
42:30 – Tom’s unexpected passing
43:40 – Gerri’s influence on the company and Matt and Joel
46:15 – On being embraced by the industry after Tom’s death
48:00 – “The O’Dell,” Casting for Recovery, and Duke Beardsley
55:30 – Future of the business
1:00:30 – Favorite books
1:05:20 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:08:10 – Favorite location in the West
1:10:00 – Best advice ever received
1:11:20 – Request of the listeners
1:13:15 – Matt asks Ed a question!
1:16:00 – Connect with Tom Morgan Rodsmiths
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Cate Havstad – Cultivating Creativity & Craftsmanship

Cate Havstad

Cate Havstad is a hat maker and farmer based in central Oregon whose abundant curiosity, creativity, and love of place have allowed her to transform her passions into a full-time and fulfilling career. As a hat maker, Cate’s unique style and unwavering commitment to quality have attracted customers ranging from music stars like Gillian Welch and Nikki Lane to hard-working ranchers and farmers throughout the American West. As a farmer, Cate and her partner are deeply committed to regenerative agriculture and the positive impact that their local efforts can have on a global scale. It’s safe to say she’s living a life guided by purpose and passion.

Born and raised in northern California, Cate was a driven athlete in her youth, as evidenced by her desire to be the first woman to play in the NBA (that’s the NBA, not the WNBA). As a young woman, a fortuitous series of events landed her in a hat maker’s workshop, where she applied that same focus and drive toward learning the craft of hat making. After accumulating experience and confidence as an apprentice, she struck out on her own and now creates some of the most sought-after, stylish, and functional hats on the market today. Cate’s life and work are closely connected to the landscape of central Oregon, and her other job as an organic farmer has given her a deep understanding of the role that regenerative agriculture can play in conservation, community building, and reversing climate change.

As you’ll hear in our conversation, Cate is extremely curious, well-read, and and knowledgeable on a wide range of subjects. We talk about her journey as a hat maker, and how she cultivates creativity and consistent production in a world filled with an increasing number of distractions. We discuss regenerative agriculture and how many people, including well-meaning environmentalists, don’t fully understand the importance of farmers and ranchers in the conservation movement. Cate is a devoted meditator and runner, so we talk about how both of those practices have improved her creativity and outlook. We also chat about Wendell Berry, Michael Pollan, Steven Pressfield, and how those authors’ works have impacted her life. There’s a lot to learn in this episode.

This was a fun conversation that could have continued for hours.  Be sure the check the episode notes below for links to everything we discussed—it’s a long list! Hope you enjoy!

Cate Havstad art piece by (former podcast guest) Teal Blake

Header photo by Amanda Leigh Smith, others courtesy of Cate Havstad


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:55 – How Cate describes her work
3:45 – How Cate began making hats
6:00 – Connection to music
6:50 – Cate’s childhood and early influences
8:20 – Leaving college to go on tour
10:25 – New influences of creative people
12:30 – Cate’s parents’ opinion of her taking a break from school
13:45 – Returning to school
15:00 – Goal of becoming a trail guide in Oregon
15:40 – Working as a hat making apprentice
17:40 – Cate’s decision to strike out on her own
20:50 – Advantages of working on simple equipment
22:10 – When Cate knew she could make a full-time career of hat making
24:40 – Havstad Hat Co fans, including Lyle Lovett
28:15 – Process oriented versus goal oriented
30:00 – Cate’s methods for cultivating creativity and her business
31:40 – Thoughts on Pressfield’s “War of Art”
33:45 – Cate’s meditation practice
40:00 – How teaching workshops has influenced her work
43:20 – How Central Oregon influences her work
45:20 – Experiences running in Central Oregon
47:00 – Cate’s experience farming
48:10  – Wendell Berry discussion
50:30 – Agricultural as a vital part of conservation
57:00 – Good books on connection to land
59:30 – Balancing social media and mindful living
1:07:40 – Favorite books
1:09:15 – Favorite documentaries
1:10:15 – Surprising activity
1:11:05 – Favorite location in the West
1:12:20 – Best advice ever received
1:13:20 – Request of the listeners
1:15:20 – Connect with Cate online
Information Referenced

(Note: In the spoken podcast intro, I mistakenly said that Lyle Lovett was a customer, when in fact he’s actually a big fan of Cate’s work. Cate’s customers include Gillian Welch, Nikki Lane, and a long list of other talented musicians and actors. Sorry for any confusion!)

2017 Reads

A comprehensive list of every book I recommended in 2017, taken directly from my bimonthly book recommendations email.






Hellhound on His Trail: The Electrifying Account of the Largest Manhunt in American History by Hampton Sides – Hampton Sides is a damn genius. As far as I’m concerned, he is the best non-fiction writer alive. His ability to write in-depth, detailed, scholarly history on a wide variety of subjects and deliver it in entertaining, fun-to-read books is second to none. This one covers the stalking and assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. by the loner/pervert/nutcase Eric Galt aka James Earl Ray. The lead-up to the assassination and the subsequent international manhunt for Ray is a perfect example of truth being stranger than fiction. If you’re like me and are embarrassingly uneducated about the Civil Rights movement, the life of Martin Luther King Jr., and the turbulent 1960s, this book will serve as a solid jumping-off point to learn more. Excellent book. [One of my favorite books of all time is Hampton Sides’ Blood and Thunder: The Epic Story of Kit Carson and the Conquest of the American West]

In the Kingdom of Ice: The Grand and Terrible Polar Voyage of the USS Jeannette by Hampton Sides – I doubled down on Hampton Sides with this book about an ill-fated expedition to discover the North Pole. While the adventure narrative about the actual expedition is entertaining, I found some of Sides’ insights into the Gilded Age to be the more interesting parts of this book. The Gilded Age is my favorite chapter in U.S. history, and the amount of knowledge gained and myths busted during that time period is amazing. For example, when the USS Jeannette left on its adventure, the world’s leading scientists (as well as the boat’s captain) were absolutely convinced that the North Pole was an open warm-water sea created by thermal energy emanating from the earth’s core—turns out it was a deadly frozen wasteland that killed almost everyone on board. Once again, Hampton Sides knocks it out of the park with this one. [For more cold-weather adventure, you can’t beat Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage by Alfred Lansing.]

Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers by Tim Ferriss – Given the amount of driving I do for work, Tim Ferriss’ podcast has been a godsend. I’ve listened to almost every episode, and each one invariably offers a few new ideas, actionable advice, or interesting book recommendations. Many of the books I’ve recommended on this list were a result of Ferriss’ in-depth and lengthy interviews with “world-class performers.” Tools of Titans is basically the CliffsNotes version of the podcast—hundreds of hours of audio distilled down into the “greatest hits” from each episode. The 700-page book is gargantuan—ridiculous really—and I’ll likely never read it all the way through. But it serves as a great reference for all of the excellent material covered in the podcast. [Check out his podcast interviews with author Sebastian Junger, former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink, and music producer Rick Rubin.]

Lincoln’s Melancholy: How Depression Challenged a President and Fueled His Greatness by Joshua Wolf Shenk – A commonplace narrative in biographies of despondent or depressed people is a heroic story of how the individuals fought through their emotional challenges and eventually had a breakthrough that allowed them to conquer their demons once and for all. This book does no such thing. Instead, it explores how Abraham Lincoln’s chronic, sometimes debilitating, depression was a constant struggle his entire life, and how his battles with “melancholy” made him a stronger and more effective leader during one of our nation’s most tumultuous times. It’s an interesting examination of how a person’s greatest weakness can simultaneously be their greatest strength. [For more on the links between mental health and greatness, I recommend A First-Rate Madness: Uncovering the Links Between Leadership and Mental Illness by Nassir Ghaemi]

On Writing Well: The Classic Guide to Writing Nonfiction by William Zinsser – I’m a firm believer that the only way to learn how to do something is to actually do it. For instance, reading a book about how to run 100-mile ultra marathons won’t do you any good unless you lace up your shoes and go on six-hour training runs. A book may offer some good tips, but the learning is in the doing. So no, this book did not transform me into Hampton Sides overnight, but it did give me a useful toolkit to dig into every time I drag myself to the keyboard and struggle to bang out a few coherent sentences. The book is entertaining, surprisingly hilarious, and offers tips that run contrary to the rules and regs of freshman English class. I will refer back to this book often. [The best book on writing, or any creative endeavor, is The War of Art: Break Through the Blocks and Win Your Creative Battles by Steven Pressfield.]

What Doesn’t Kill Us: How Freezing Water, Extreme Altitude and Environmental Conditioning Will Renew Our Lost Evolutionary Strength by Scott Carney – Over a year ago, I heard a podcast interview with an eccentric Dutchman named Wim Hof who was touting the benefits of cold showers, ice baths, and wacky breathing exercises—so, of course, I immediately gave it all a try. Barring the time I passed out and “bumped” my face on the floor, I found his exercises to improve my mood, burn fat that no amount of running seemed to be able to eliminate, and generally improve my overall well-being. I thought I had discovered a valuable secret until I heard that this book was being released, bringing the techniques and science behind the claims into the mainstream. The author is an investigative journalist who has made a career of debunking gurus, but when he used Wim’s techniques to hike to the summit of Kilimanjaro shirtless, his skepticism began to recede and he realized there may be something to Wim’s claims. (Here’s a short, mainstream article that summarizes the techniques, and here’s an excellent NPR interview with the author.)

The Reluctant Mr. Darwin: An Intimate Portrait of Charles Darwin and the Making of His Theory of Evolution by David Quammen – Hardly a day goes by that I don’t hear or read a reference to “Darwinian,” “Darwinism,” or “Survival of the Fittest.”  But while reading this book, I realized just how little I actually knew about the man behind the theory… and the theory itself. Because I always pictured Darwin as a larger-than-life adventurer sailing the high seas on the HMS Beagle, I was surprised to learn that he was actually a bookish homebody who worked himself to the bone, all while suffering from debilitating chronic illnesses likely caused by anxiety. It took him close to 20 years to actually publish his theory because he worried about blowback from religious institutions, and he was a perfectionist who had trouble finishing projects. Eventually, other scientists began producing similar theories, so good ol’ ego and competition finally spurred him to publish On the Origin of Species. I really enjoyed this book. (The best evolution-focused book I’ve read in years is Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari.)

The Craving Mind: From Cigarettes to Smartphones to Love – Why We Get Hooked and How We Can Break Bad Habits by Judson Brewer – Luckily, I’ve never been addicted to anything, with one glaring exception—my iPhone. I pretty much despise the device, yet I find myself constantly fighting the urge to look at it, check email, or research any obscure idea that happens to pop into my head. This book helped me to understand exactly what’s going in people’s brains when they crave anything (cigarettes, booze, drugs, iPhones) and presents methods to stop the addictive behaviors. (Spoiler: iPhones are kind of like heroin.) The author is a neuroscientist and experienced meditator who combined science and mindfulness to invent a system that helps addicts of all kinds conquer their addictions. Amazingly, his system is twice as effective at helping smokers quit cigarettes as the “gold star” treatment prescribed by the American Lung Association. This is a very useful book that combines rock-solid scientific data with ancient Buddhist philosophy in a straightforward and non-silly style. We’ll see if it gives me sustained relief from the iPhone craving. (The best non-silly book on meditation/mindfulness that I’ve ever read is 10% Happier: How I Tamed the Voice in My Head, Reduced Stress Without Losing My Edge, and Found Self-Help That Actually Works by Dan Harris.)

Why Wall Street Matters by William D. Cohan – Given our current hyper-polarized political climate, you wouldn’t expect a lifelong progressive Democrat to write an insightful and even-handed defense of Wall Street, but that’s exactly what Cohan does in this short and easy-to-read book. Cohan, a former investment banker turned journalist, explains the history of Wall Street, the rise of investment banks, Wall Street’s effect on global economies, and how all of this affects every American’s day-to-day life. Cohan argues that American finance is mostly a force for good, but it has lost its way over the past 30 years thanks to faulty incentives that allow bankers to gamble with the public’s money with little or no personal consequence if they lose it all. After all of the indiscriminate Wall Street bashing by both parties during the recent presidential election, I appreciated this book’s rational and measured tone. (For a deeper dive into the history of Wall Street, check out The Myth of the Rational Market: A History of Risk, Reward, and Delusion on Wall Streetby Justin Fox.)

Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War by Robert Coram – This rather obscure book was recommended to me by one of the toughest, most focused, and clearest thinking people I know (or know of). It’s the story of John Boyd, a fighter pilot turned self-taught military strategist whose theories led to the development of the F-15 and F-16, guided US strategy during Desert Storm, and altered the trajectory of the Air Force and the US Military. The book’s military history is extremely interesting, but I was more fascinated with Boyd’s personality—hard-charging, amazingly focused, contrarian, irreverent, hard working, and willing to bend or break long-standing military rules in order to accomplish his goals. Because Boyd was never promoted beyond Colonel, he’s not a well-known historical figure, but thanks to Coram’s entertaining and dense book, Boyd is receiving at least a little of the recognition he deserves. (If you like learning about irreverent, hard-charging, focused men, read my favorite book of all time: The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt by Edmund Morris.)

Coyote America: A Natural and Supernatural History by Dan Flores – I love books that go deep on one very specific subject, and this is one of my favorites. The coyote is a controversial figure, especially here in the American West, and understanding this highly intelligent animal—and humans’ relationship with it—provides some interesting insights into the history of North America, our relationships with other species, and some of the comical ways we’ve gone about trying to control the natural world. The book covers all aspects of the animal, from its evolutionary past to its relationship with Native Americans, and its ability to outwit our best efforts to exterminate it from the planet. Whether you love them or hate them (or can’t distinguish a coyote from a German Shepard), you’ll walk away from this book with new insights into humans, animals, and the North American landscape. (My favorite subject-specific book of all time is Cod: A Biography of the Fish that Changed the World by Mark Kurlansky.)

United: Thoughts on Finding Common Ground and Advancing the Common Good by Cory Booker – I first learned of Cory Booker back in 2005 when I watched the documentary Street Fight. I was intrigued by this Stanford and Yale-educated, Division One football-playing, Rhodes Scholar attorney who passed up high-paying jobs to live in the housing projects of Newark, NJ and devote his life to community development. Since then, he’s worked his way up from City Councilman to Mayor to Senator. While I usually avoid books written by sitting politicians—they are often self-congratulatory nonsense—I made an exception for Booker. It’s a well-written and engaging book that discusses his upbringing, his parents’ role in the civil rights movement, and lessons learned from various mentors along the way. Of course he delves into some current political issues, but I thought they were presented in a logical, non-inflammatory manner. He even challenged some of my notions on issues such as minimum wage and the environment, which is exactly why I read so much—to stretch my mind, challenge my beliefs, and see the world in a more informed way. (If we’re talking about politicians, of course I have to recommend a TR book. Here’s a good one that covers his time as police commissioner of New York City: Island of Vice: Theodore Roosevelt’s Quest to Clean Up Sin-Loving New York by Richard Zacks.)

The Legend of Colton H. Bryant by Alexandra Fuller – This book follows the life of Colton Bryant, a young man from Evanston, WY, whose life is shaped by the booms and busts of the American West’s energy business. His father is a lifelong oil rig worker, and Colton follows in his footsteps, taking a job on a rig in the Upper Green River Valley during the boom of the mid-2000s. I felt a surprising connection with Colton, because we were almost the same age, working in the same area of Wyoming at the exact same time—we very well could have passed each other on Highway 191 at some point. However, through nothing but luck of circumstance, I was selling beautiful ranches while Colton was risking his life in unsafe conditions for relatively low pay and little job security. Although the book reads like fiction, it is true, and it gives some valuable insights into the lives of the West’s struggling lower-middle class. (David Gessner’s All the Wild that Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West touches on energy production in the West, plus plenty of other fascinating subjects.)

Understanding the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict: A Primer by Phyllis Bennis – I was having dinner with friends recently when the subject of Palestine came up. As I sat quietly, nodding my head, contributing nothing to the conversation, I thought: “I probably can’t find Palestine is on a map, but I sure know a hell of a lot about coyotes!” Two days later, the folks at Boulder Bookstore pointed me to this book as a way to fill this embarrassing gap in my understanding of the world. The book is basically 200 pages of Israel-Palestine FAQs that covers everything from the history of Israel and the competing interests in the area to answers to basic questions like “What is Hamas?” and “What is Zionism?” As I read the book, most of the people and events were vaguely familiar to me, and this book brought them all together into a relatively easy-to-understand narrative. As much as I read and as curious as I am, it’s amazing that I could be so clueless about such an important (and violent) part of world history that has been unfolding throughout my life. I wonder what else I’m missing?

Six Easy Pieces: Essentials of Physics Explained by Its Most Brilliant Teacher by Richard P. Feynman – Years ago, I came across a Youtube video of a man ripping to shreds the idea of “honors,” and I knew I had to learn more about this man. Turns out he was Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman, a man who not only contributed to the success of the Manhattan Project, but was a quirky polymath who dabbled in painting, bongo playing, safe cracking, pranking, and hilarious storytelling. Feynman was also a gifted teacher, and this book consists of six different introductory physics classes that he taught at Cal Tech, transcribed into written word. I never took physics in high school or college, so I found the overall concepts interesting. More interesting, however, is Feynman’s ability to communicate extremely complex subjects in a manner that is relatively easy to understand. Most interesting is the opportunity to observe how Feynman’s mind works—extremely curious, open to new ideas, looking to overturn conventional wisdom, and completely rational. In our current political environment where the scientific method seems to be taking a back seat to opinions and emotions, absorbing Feynman’s outlook and personality is like a breath of fresh air. (For more insights into the man himself, I highly recommend one of his other books, Surely You’re Joking Mr. Feynman: Adventures of a Curious Character.)

American Serengeti: The Last Big Animals of the Great Plains by Dan Flores – If you have an interest in natural history and love the American West, this book should be required reading. It gives an overview of the history of large mammals in North America—also known as “charismatic megafauna’—which included lions, mammoths, saber-toothed cats, giant ground sloths, and giant long-horned bison, to name a few. Then Flores digs into detail on some of North America’s remaining large mammals, including pronghorn, coyotes, horses, grizzlies, bison, and wolves. I marked up almost every page of this book with notes and highlights, as each chapter gave me new insights into the why things are the way they are in the West. Flores balances natural history and science with humor and clean prose, making this book a real pleasure to read. I predict I’ll be referring back to this book often. (The first book that introduced me to some of these natural history concepts, then changed my perspective on how livestock can be used to restore grassland ecosystems is For the Love of Land: Global Case Studies of Grazing in Nature’s Image by my good buddy Jim Howell.)

Where You Go Is Not Who You’ll Be: An Antidote to the College Admissions Mania by Frank Bruni– This book confirmed many of my suspicions about college rankings, specifically people’s obsession with the US News “Best Colleges” list—that it is a baseless system that can be gamed by participants and ultimately means nothing. Everyone who has children should read this book, as it gives excellent insights into just how flawed and nonsensical those rankings are. Kids should pick colleges based on their specific interests and personalities, not based on a list put together by a faceless profit-seeking organization with dodgy intentions. Bruni argues that no matter where you go to school, you only get out of it what you put in, so kids’ efforts at their school are much more important than the school’s brand. College admission is far from the finish line of life—work ethic during college and the pursuit of a fulfilling, meaningful career for the following 40+ years should be a much higher priority. (Bruni’s undergraduate education at UNC-Chapel Hill was funded by the Morehead-Cain Foundation—my ridiculously smart wife had the same scholarship and now works for the Foundation, which is how I learned about this book.)

All Waves are Water: Stumbling Toward Enlightenment and the Perfect Ride by Jaimal Yogis – Before I started surfing, I used to scoff when I’d hear spaced-out surfer dudes drone on about how surfing is “spiritual.” Then, after surfing almost every day for a year, I came to understand and completely agree with their assessment. This book combines surfing, meditation, religion, travel, and adventure, in an amazingly cohesive and fun memoir that connects these heavy subjects in unexpected ways. It amazes me that Yogis is able to write about such weighty topics as religion and philosophy, then connect them to surfing, in a manner that is neither silly nor pompous. As an obsessed surfer and a daily meditator, I loved everything about this book. And to top it all off, I was lucky enough to meet Yogis in person at a recent book-signing and thoroughly enjoyed chatting with him—he was humble, insightful, and interested, which made me like the book even more. (Yogis’ first book Saltwater Buddha: A Surfers Quest to Find Zen on the Sea is one of my all-time favorites.)

The Haywire Heart: How too much exercise can kill you, and what you can do to protect your heart by Case, Mandrola, and Zinn – Back in June, I was running a 100-mile ultramarathon in Wyoming’s Bighorn Mountains, and my heart went completely nuts, ruining my race and giving me quite a scare. After multiple visits to cardiologists, I am apparently fine, but I walked away from the experience realizing that most doctors know next to nothing about ultra-distance endurance training and its effects on the body. Lucky for me, this book was published earlier this year and is written by several hardcore endurance athletes, one of whom is also a respected electrophysiologist. The book discusses how extreme exercise can affect the heart, the specific diagnoses, and the full spectrum of treatment options—all from the perspective of people who understand the realities of running non-stop for 24-48 hours at a time. A very niche subject for sure, but I highly recommend it, as it gave me solid base-level of understanding about the heart, cardiologists’ lingo, all of the treatment options, and more.

The Compound Effect by Darren Hardy – I don’t know how I came across this book or why I read it—maybe because I was down in the dumps about my heart and unfinished race—but it was timely and surprisingly good. I generally shy away from self-help books, as they usually lead me down a rabbit hole of endless planning, systems, and processes, with very little action and results. This book didn’t really present any new ideas, but it was an effective repackaging of things I already knew at a time when I needed a fresh perspective. The basic ideas are: work extremely hard, make definitive choices, take full responsibility for everything, track your progress, be mindful of habits, and take action NOW.  It’s not rocket science. It’s straightforward stuff that everyone knows in theory, but I took a lot away from Hardy’s original presentation of the familiar material. (One of the best self-help type books I’ve read and that I continually refer back to is The Art of Taking Action: Lessons from Japanese Psychology by Gregg Krech.)

On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder – Very enlightening and short book that discusses how totalitarian regimes were able to take over societies during the 20th century. Most of the examples revolve around Hitler’s rise to power, and Snyder shows how Hitler’s transformation of Germany into a fascist regime was a complete surprise to many German scholars, politicians, and citizens—very few took him seriously at first, writing him off as an extremist clown. The book demonstrates just how vulnerable democratic societies can be to the pull of authoritarianism and how citizens must remain vigilant and proactive in repelling forces that threaten democracy. This would be an eye-opening book at any time, but given the current cuckoo political climate in the U.S., it’s even more important. (If you don’t know how to read, check out this interview with the author on Sam Harris’s Waking Up Podcast.)

Bad Land: An American Romance by Jonathan Raban – This book had been on my “to-read” list for quite a while, but a recent work trip to eastern Montana prompted me to bump it to the top of the list—an amazing book that I should’ve read years ago. It’s a history of the settlement of eastern Montana combined with the author’s personal journey traveling through and learning about this uniquely American landscape and culture. Raban details the railroads’ marketing trickery that convinced aspiring emigrants to pack up and move to a 320-acre patch of treeless, dry, windswept grassland. He explains the government’s propaganda touting the lie that “rain follows the plow,” which convinced most of these settlers to plow up healthy grass and plant crops that would not grow. Raban is British, so he brings an outsider’s perspective to his analysis, completely free of the romantic biases that Americans often harbor toward the West. Enlightening, funny, and entertaining—highly recommended. [I also recommend Theodore Roosevelt’s Hunting Trips of a Ranchman, as it lays the groundwork for TR’s love of the West, which directly affected some of the policies that led to the settlement of Montana.]

Theodore Roosevelt’s Letters to His Children by Theodore Roosevelt – I re-read this book and will likely re-read it every year for the rest of my life. Everyone knows that TR was a hard-charging politician (and soldier, naturalist, historian, hunter, explorer, rancher, etc.), but few  understand that he was a truly devoted father and family man. This collection of letters is equal parts hilarious and heartwarming, and I also see it as instructional—he sets a great example of an engaged and fun father, while also modeling the values that I hope to pass along to my children. The book is full of ridiculous stories, such as a badger running loose in the White House, snakes slithering up the pants of Senators, and flying squirrels terrorizing presidential guests, all to the sheer delight of TR.  But for every letter about mischief, there is a letter encouraging his children to work hard, be honest, and live up to high personal standards, no matter the influences of the outside world. [If you’re looking for a single good book in the ridiculous heap of the parenting genre, the best one I’ve read is Bringing Up Bebé: One American Woman Discovers the Wisdom of French Parenting by Pamela Druckerman.]

In the Neighborhood: The Search for Community on an American Street, One Sleepover at a Time by Peter Lovenheim – Ever since becoming a father, I’ve come to appreciate the importance of community even more than I did before. I’ve also realized how our modern-day society inadvertently snubs out community—many Americans don’t know our neighbors, we’re isolated in our own little sealed-off worlds, mostly oblivious to the people who live in our immediate vicinity. In this book, the author, who has lived in the same suburban, high-end neighborhood for most of his life, realizes he doesn’t really know any of his neighbors, so he sets out to change that. Using the very, very weird technique of asking to spend the night in their homes, he learns the ins and outs of the neighbors’ lives, is able to make connections among once-strangers, and builds a nice community in what was once a sterile suburb. Some parts of the book are a little over the top (as in I would likely call the authorities on a neighbor doing some of the stuff this guy did), but his slightly odd community-building efforts make a strong point—communities matter and we need to be proactive in building and maintaining them. [For the best defense of community I’ve ever read, check out Sebastian Junger’s Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging.]

Free Will by Sam Harris – I really admire Sam Harris and see him as one of the most clear-thinking and rational voices on a wide spectrum of modern-day cultural issues. Most of his ideas make so much sense to me that I’ve begun actively trying to poke holes in every argument he makes—I never want to defer too much to one individual’s line of thinking (except TR). Free Will is one of those books that I do not want to agree with, but it’s hard for me to find a gap in Harris’s rationale. He argues that no one actually has free will—that all of our choices and opinions are the product of circumstances outside of our control and that no one is truly in control of themselves and their actions. He also argues that a lack of free will is not a bad thing, and that understanding and accepting this reality can improve huge parts of our lives and society. I continue to ruminate on these ideas weeks after finishing the book, so it obviously had an impact on my thinking. It’s a very short book, so if you like challenging your preconceived ideas, you should check it out. [I will once again recommend Sam Harris’s brain-scrambling book Lying—an argument that no one should lie about anything, ever, no matter how benign the issue may be.]

Discipline Equals Freedom: Field Manual by Jocko Willink – So much for the idea of “no free will,” because I read this book with the intention of willing myself to be a little tougher, more disciplined, and an all-around better person. Jocko Willink is a retired Navy SEAL and one of the most genuinely hardcore dudes I’ve ever encountered. The book basically details his day-to-day operating system for living a successful life, which involves embracing discipline above all else. He declares that there are no shortcuts or secrets, that discipline is difficult and it should be. He touts the importance of getting up early, exercising daily, and always working from a list. All very simple ideas, but far from easy. To give you a sample of his no-nonsense advice, here’s a short passage: “People constantly ask me for the secret of getting up early. I tell them it is simple: Set your alarm clock and get out of bed when it goes off.” In a world of endless motivational quotes, “lifehacks,” and self-help foolishness, this book is refreshing, realistic, actionable, and no-nonsense. [If you’re not familiar with Jocko, you many want to check out his podcast or other book, Extreme Ownership: How US Navy SEALs Lead and Win. I love his approach, but I can see how he may not be for everyone.]

Modern Huntsman, Volume 1 – Not a book per se, but this soon-to-be-published magazine will hold a place on my bookshelf alongside all the other important works that mean so much to me. This 200+ page magazine is the brainchild of several friends who happen to be some of the most interesting and impressive folks I know. The first edition of this publication, to be released in early 2018, will feature articles, photography, and commentary by an all-star team of deep-thinking conservationists, hunters, and adventurers. The goal of the publication is to improve the perception of hunting in our society through storytelling in a fresh, elegant, and thoughtful manner. I’m not an obsessed hunter, but my work in conservation and my understanding of natural history have given me a firsthand appreciation for the importance of hunting and the vital role it plays in conserving landscapes and species around the world. This is an important project on several levels, so watch the video on their Kickstarter page if you want to learn more and secure a copy for yourself.

Cattle Kingdom: The Hidden History of the Cowboy West by Christopher Knowlton – This is the book I’ve been waiting for since I moved West in 2005. It’s a comprehensive history of the settlement of the West, as shaped by the rapid expansion (and dramatic implosion) of the cattle ranching business. I loved this book because it’s broad enough to offer a solid overview of the timeframe of the first cattle drives north from Texas, but it also zooms in on specific individuals and events that were instrumental in fueling the western cattle boom. Despite my involvement in the ranching world and my voracious appetite for western history, I learned a lot from this book, specifically the influence of European investment on western settlement. To add to my excitement, there is lots of discussion of TR and his involvement in the West, which is always a welcome subject. [Speaking of TR, if you want a full book dedicated exclusively to his time in the West, check out Theodore Roosevelt in the Badlands: A Young Politician’s Quest for Recovery in the American West by Roger Di Silvestro.]

The Rules Do Not Apply: A Memoir by Ariel Levy – For Pete’s sake, this author’s life is complicated. She’s a staff writer for the New Yorker and an enormously talented author, but how she had the guts to reveal such tragic, weird, sad, and extremely personal details of her life, I’ll never know. This memoir covers everything from her non-traditional family upbringing to a terrible tragedy that struck during a reporting trip to Mongolia, which resulted in the total upending of all aspects of her life. This is far from an upbeat, fun-to-read book, but despite my having almost nothing in common with the author, I found many of her insights and lessons learned to be wise and worth considering. I continue to think about this book weeks after finishing it, which I consider the mark of a book worth reading. It also makes me very thankful for my relatively boring life. [For another New Yorker-staff-writer memoir, read the Pulitzer Prize-winning Barbarian Days: A Surfing Life by William Finnegan. It’s one of my all-time favorites.]

The Vanishing American Adult: Our Coming-of-Age Crisis—and How to Rebuild a Culture of Self-Relianceby Ben Sasse – Sasse is an up-and-coming Republican Senator from Nebraska, but you don’t need to agree with his politics to appreciate his insights in this excellent book. To be clear—this book is not the compiled rants of a well-to-do white guy complaining about how today’s youth don’t understand how good they’ve got it (e.g. “I used to walk 10 miles to school through the snow, uphill both ways!”). Rather, it’s an insightful, historically based examination of how recent cultural changes are making younger generations less prepared to compete and succeed in the real word. Sasse advocates for consuming less, reading more, traveling to deeply experience new cultures, and devoting oneself to meaningful, challenging work—it’s hard for me to disagree with any of that. And like Cattle Kingdom above, there are many TR references throughout the book, which only adds to its appeal.

Promise Me, Dad: A Year of Hope, Hardship, and Purpose by Joe Biden – Until a few years into his Vice Presidency, I wrongly assumed Joe Biden was just another fake-grinning, loudmouthed politician. But as I dug into his backstory, I was surprised to discover that behind the aviator sunglasses, the endless gaffes, and the persona created by The Onion, there is an amazingly decent, grounded, and truly optimistic man who has suffered—and recovered from—some of the most devastating personal experiences imaginable. He doesn’t drink, has never been wealthy, and is deeply admired by a wide range of colleagues from Strom Thurmond to Ted Kennedy. This book tells the story of his most recent loss, his son Beau’s death from aggressive brain cancer. It’s touching, insightful, and inspiring to understand how Biden dealt with yet another tragedy, and how he continued get up and keep pushing forward without becoming bitter. Included in the book is a bit of fluff about his Vice Presidential accomplishments, which is expected and hints that he’s not done with politics. But overall, I thoroughly enjoyed this book. [If you want the over-the-top, R-rated version of Joe Biden that colored my perception of the man for years, check out The Onion’scoverage of his Vice Presidency. Completely fictional, completely crude, and completely hilarious.]

The Stranger in the Woods: The Extraordinary Story of the Last True Hermit by Michael Finkel – This is the true story of a complete weirdo who lived hidden in the Maine woods completely alone, never speaking to another human for 27 years. I enjoyed the book and read it quickly in just three sittings, but absolutely did not like the main character, the hermit Christopher Knight. Knight’s experience as a hermit was unlike any other known hermit—he was not seeking spiritual enlightenment nor did he have a true love of nature—according to the author, he just sort of sat around for the better part of three decades in a small, forested cove with no real purpose or reason for being there. Instead of hunting, trapping, or some other type of self-reliant badassery, he snuck around at night and stole all of his food, clothing, and gear from vacation homes and a nearby summer camp. My visceral reaction to the hermit and his lame “hunting and gathering” methods speaks to the author’s ability to tell an engrossing story that strikes a chord with readers. Very entertaining and worth a read. [One of my favorite books as a kid was Hatchet by Gary Paulsen, about a boy who actually hunts and fishes (and doesn’t steal) in order to survive in the wilderness.]

Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging by Sebastian Junger – I re-read this book a few weeks ago, and will likely re-read it again and again. It’s no exaggeration that I think about it everyday and have bought numerous copies to give away to friends and family. It’s short and powerful and has redefined my thinking on the importance of community, purpose, and the social structure of modern-day America. I can’t recommend it enough. Here’s my original recommendation from July/August 2016. [But don’t take my word for it, the almighty Oprah loved it, too—listen to her podcast with Junger.  Or listen to this Joe Rogan Podcast episode with Junger.]




Sarah King – Collaborative Conservation in the American Southwest

Sarah King (photo credit: Roni Ziemba)

Sarah King is a rancher, conservationist, wife, and mother of two who lives and works on her family’s 55,000-acre cattle ranch in southern Arizona’s Altar Valley. The King’s Anvil Ranch was established in 1895 and has operated successfully within their family for generations, setting an example of how to run a financially viable agricultural business, while simultaneously protecting the long-term ecological health of their vast desert ranch. The Kings understand that in order for their business to thrive, the land must thrive, and they are leaders in pursuing a variety of outside-the-box land stewardship techniques, including the focused use of prescribed fires.

The King family spearheaded the creation of the Altar Valley Conservation Alliance, a cutting-edge land conservation organization that collaborates with a wide range of stakeholders, including private landowners, ranchers, government entities, conservation non-profits, and environmental advocacy groups. Thanks to focused, diligent efforts over the course of two decades, the AVCA has managed to bring together groups that have historically been at odds, allowing them to focus on shared goals and creative solutions to complicated challenges, rather than dwelling on their differences. As you’ll hear Sarah explain, AVCA understands that open, honest, face-to-face communication has been the key to tackling the Altar Valley’s complex challenges, and their success gives me hope that other organizations throughout the West can adopt their approach and enjoy the same success.

This was a very enlightening episode for me, because I personally just don’t know enough about the landscapes and heritage of the deep southwest. We dig into many of the details of the King’s Anvil Ranch and its operation, including the unique climate and ecology of the Arizona desert. Sarah explains how the AVCA came to be, and offers some insights into exactly what they do and how they’ve managed to have such success. We discuss Sarah’s personal background, specifically how an east coast native ended up on an expansive cattle ranch in Arizona. We talk about the benefits of raising children on a ranch, and the lessons she hopes to impart as they grow up closely connected to the land. Given that the ranch is located less than 40 miles from the Mexico border, we discuss how illegal border crossings have a significant effect on the ranch’s operations. And, of course, we discuss favorite books and documentaries, with links to everything in the episode notes.

I had such a great time chatting with Sarah, and I walked away from the conversation with a much deeper understanding of ranching, conservation, and life in the American southwest. She and her colleagues at AVCA are doing important, groundbreaking conservation work, so I encourage you to follow them and learn from their efforts. Also, be sure to follow Sarah on Instagram—on top of everything else, she’s a talented photographer, too. Enjoy!

Header photo courtesy of Sarah King, other courtesy of Roni Ziemba


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:30 – How Sarah describes her work
4:10 – King’s Anvil Ranch
5:20 – History of the ranch
7:10 – Details on the ranching operation
10:30 – History of Altar Valley Conservation Alliance
13:15 – Events leading to the Alliance’s formation
16:30 – Importance of fire in the Altar Valley
20:00 – Examples of AVCA collaborative projects
25:20 – Why has AVCA been able to be successful where others have not?
28:45 – Specific reasons for AVCA’s success
31:15 – The importance of private land in the West
35:30 – How Sarah ended up in the west, working in ranching
39:00 – Sarah’s college thesis on women dude ranchers
41:15 – Realities of moving West from the east coast
42:30 – Benefits of raising children on a ranch
45:30 – Sarah’s photography
47:15 – Illegal immigration and its effects on the King’s ranch
55:50 – Favorite books
57:55 – Favorite documentaries
59:35 – Surprising activities
1:00:30 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:03:30 – Best advice ever received
1:05:00 – Sarah’s request of the listeners
1:06:00 – Connect with Sarah online
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Charles Post – Stewardship, Science & Storytelling

Charles Post (Photo Credit: Rachel Pohl)

Charles Post is an academically trained ecologist with a gift for communicating complex and sometimes emotionally charged issues in a thoughtful manner to diverse audiences. Whether he’s discussing the intricacies of ranch management, the ecological implications of ethical hunting, or controversies surrounding the BLM’s wild mustang program, Charles has honed his ability to consider all sides of issues, then educate the public in a style that is positive, comprehensive, and intellectually honest. His academic credentials, combined with his photography, writing, filmmaking, and popular social media channels have made Charles a rising star in the world of conservation.  

Born and raised in northern California, Charles has enjoyed a deep connection with Western landscapes for as long as he can remember. He grew up hunting, fishing, and exploring the seascapes and mountain ranges of the West Coast, then earned both a Bachelors and Masters in ecology from UC Berkeley. After considering pursuing a PhD followed by a career in academia, Charles changed course and pursued a less traditional track that melded his two passions of science and storytelling. Since then, he has settled in Bozeman, Montana where he works on a wide range of projects that all tie back into conservation and stewardship in the American West.

Charles and I talked for well over an hour, and could’ve easily continued for several more. We discuss his recent work for Filson covering Ranchlands, a progressive, forward-thinking ranching operation in southern Colorado. We also chat about the ecological importance of ranching for Western landscapes and the progress that Charles has made trying to change some of the unfounded negative impressions of ranching and livestock. We talk about his recent elk hunt, and how that adventure was one of the richest, most meaningful experiences of his life. Charles speaks fondly about his relationship with Ben Masters, who helped him break into the filmmaking world.  It also turns out that we have a shared love of the American Dipper (which is a bird, for those of you out of the loop), and we nerd out on that subject for a few minutes. As usual, we discuss favorite books, films, and the best advice he’s ever received.

If you’re a long-time listener, you will love this episode… and if you’re brand new, I hope you will, too! Be sure to check out Charles on Instagram at @charles_post and check the episode notes for everything we discuss. Enjoy!

All images courtesy of Rachel Pohl


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Topics Discussed:

3:00 – Charles’s intro to Ben Masters
5:10 – How Charles describes his work
6:30 – Why Charles identifies as an ecologist
8:50 – Science versus communicating to the mainstream
10:30 – Charles experience with Ranchlands and thoughts on ranching
17:45 – How Charles tells the ranching story
20:45 – Resources for learning more about ranching
21:55 – Discussion about wolves’ effects on Yellowstone
24:35 – Where Charles grew up
25:50 – Charles’ connection to Gifford Pinchot
29:40 – Hunting from a conservation perspective
32:25 – Modern Huntsman
35:15 – Interplay between public and private land
41:40 – How science shaped his ability to be objective
43:40 – His approach to social media
49:45 – The importance of Charles’s sponsors and supporters
54:30 – Charles’s personal history with hunting
1:01:40 – Favorite books
1:08:10 – Weird habits and quirks
1:09:30 – American Dipper nerd-fest
1:12:20 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:16:00 – Best advice he’s ever received
1:19:25 – Charles’s request of the listeners
1:20:50 – Connect with Charles online
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Mark Maggiori – A Fresh View of the American West

Mark Maggiori

Mark Maggiori has taken the western art scene by storm with his dramatically realistic paintings of cowboys, horses, landscapes, and scenes from the American West. But painting is only a small part of Mark’s journey as a professional artist—he is also an accomplished director, filmmaker, drawer, photographer, and musician, working for companies like Disney as an illustrator and fronting a major-record-label rock band. To make his story even more interesting, Mark was born and raised in France, and is a relative newcomer to the western United States.

When he was 15, Mark took a road trip across America with his adventurous uncle, igniting his passion for Western landscapes and planting the seed of his western art career that would flourish two decades later. Between then and now, he has demonstrated an uncanny ability to dive headfirst into a wide array of artistic endeavors with single-minded focus and work ethic, enjoying success at every level.  At little over three years ago, at age 36, all of Mark’s talents and experiences melded together when he decided to try and paint his first cowboy. In what he describes as an epiphany, Mark immediately knew he had found his true identity as an artist.

Mark and I had a fun conversation. We talk about all the stages of his prolific career as an artist, and how he has approached each one with a laser-like focus and uncompromising work ethic. Mark explains how he discovered his talent for drawing—a talent that he had no idea he possessed until after he had enrolled in art school. We also chat about how being new to America has afforded him a fresh perspective on the people and landscapes of the American West, a perspective that shines through in his paintings. He gives details on his workman-like approach to painting and ensuring the historical accuracy of his work, and how exercise helps to fuel his creativity and work ethic.  As usual, we cover favorite books, documentaries, and the craziest thing that’s ever happened to him in the outdoors, which is a ridiculous and pretty damn scary story!

Be sure to check out the webpage for links to all of Mark’s work, his upcoming solo show, and everything we discuss in this episode. Hope you enjoy!

All images courtesy of Mark Maggiori


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Topics Discussed:

3:00 – How Mark describes his work
5:11 – Growing up in France
6:30 – Road trip across America
11:20 – Mark’s interests as a teenager
12:40 – The attraction to art school
15:40 – Discovering his talent for art
18:45 – Learning work ethic
20:30 – Working for Disney
22:45 – Working in music videos
23:45 – Performing music and creating art
24:30 – Mark’s time with Pleymo
27:25 – Leaving music
32:00 – Coming to America to make a film
35:40 – Demolition derbies and rodeos
36:50 – Starting to paint cowboys
41:00 – Building his following through Instagram and networking
44:00 – Expanding to new galleries
45:00 – Secret of painting clouds
47:55 – Keeping his work accurate
50:00 – Starting to paint Native Americans
54:30 – Mark’s daily routine
58:45 – Favorite books
1:01:00 – Favorite documentaries
1:02:30 – Favorite place in the West
1:03:50 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:05:30 – Getting chased by crazy people in Louisiana
1:10:15 – Mark’s request of the listeners
1:12:50 – Connect with Mark online and learn about his upcoming art show
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Tyler Sharp, Part II – Modern Huntsman

Tyler Sharp, Part II – Modern Huntsman


Tyler Sharp
If you’ve been listening to the podcast for a while, then surely you’ll remember Tyler Sharp. He’s the creative director, photographer, and writer who has explored everywhere from east Africa to Montana’s Paradise Valley and has the stories and images to prove it. He currently works with some of the biggest brands in the outdoor industry, such as Filson and Yeti, helping them to tell authentic and engaging stories. Tyler’s first podcast episode has been one of my most popular—we went deep, covering everything from big-game hunting to kung fu to conservation—so I wanted to have him back to continue the conversation and discuss his latest project, Modern Huntsman.

Modern Huntsman is a biannual publication and online forum for conservationists, creatives, and outdoor enthusiasts. If you enjoy this podcast and my guests’ depth of thinking on topics related to the natural world, then you’re going to love Modern Huntsman. Through thoughtful writing, captivating photography, and elegant design, Tyler and his all-star team intend to improve the perception of hunting in our society by highlighting its thoughtful and conservation-focused aspects, which are often ignored by established media.

I like to hunt, although I’m not obsessed with it like I am with endurance sports. But my work in conservation and deep reading of natural history have given me a firsthand appreciation for the importance of hunting, and the vital role it plays in conserving landscapes and species around the world. Without the efforts of visionary hunters like Theodore Roosevelt, the healthy wildlife populations we enjoy here in the American West would be a mere fraction of what they are today, if they existed at all. Thanks to their deep respect for wildlife born from their love of the sport of hunting, TR and his contemporaries set in motion a conservation ethic that continues to grow and evolve. Now, over 100 years later, Modern Huntsman will carry that ethic forward.

Once again, Tyler and I had a wonderful conversation, and I was incredibly impressed with his ability to discuss complex, sometimes emotionally charged issues in a respectful, intelligent, and non-arrogant tone. Of course we discussed the details of Modern Huntsman, its origins, and why there is a need for such a publication. We chatted about Modern Huntsman’s current Kickstarter campaign, which I highly recommend you support—links are in the notes. We also talked in depth about some of the misconceptions around hunting and specifics about why hunting is so important for conservation throughout the world. And just like last time, Tyler had some excellent book recommendations.

This was a fun and enlightening conversation, so I hope you enjoy. Check out the episode notes for links to everything, and be sure the check out the Modern Huntsman Kickstarter page, watch the film, and support the project.

All images courtesy of Tyler Sharp & Modern Huntsman


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:30 – How Tyler describes his work
6:10 – Modern Huntsman overview
8:40 – Improving hunting’s image
10:00 – Modern Huntsman as “new media”
12:00 – Tyler’s relationship with Simon Roosevelt
14:30 – Modern Huntsman’s target audience
16:30 – Misunderstandings surrounding hunting
20:30 – Modern Huntsman’s strategy for telling the correct story
22:00 – Importance of having a woman’s perspective
23:20 – Engaging with non-hunters
26:15 – Esthetics of the magazine
31:00 – List of the editors and contributors
34:50 – History of hunting and conservation
39:00 – Tools for connecting conservation and hunting
43:00 – How safari companies contribute to conservation in Africa
47:50 – The Kickstarter film
50:15 – Tyler’s favorite hunting books
58:10 – Best advice Tyler’s ever received
59:30 – Connect with Modern Huntsman online

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Scott Slusher – The Cowboys’ Cowboy Photographer

Scott Slusher – The Cowboys’ Cowboy Photographer


Scott Slusher

Scott Slusher is an Oklahoma native and Texas-based photographer who is best known for his stunning images of cowboys and life on working ranches. After seeing Scott’s work, it is crystal clear that he has a deep understanding of the ranching lifestyle and has invested more than his share of time out in the heat and dust, on horseback or in the branding pen. Given his immersion in the tough, hard-nosed world of ranching, you may be surprised to learn that Scott was trained as a fashion photographer and still works with a variety of big-name companies on their fashion and clothing line spreads.

So what allows Scott to have success in two worlds as diametrically opposed as ranching and fashion? Well, as you’ll hear in this interview, Scott has a habit of pursuing his interests with a single-minded intensity and curiosity, unafraid of getting in over his head, venturing outside his comfort zone, or working harder than expected. Combine those traits with endless energy and a knack for making friends with everyone he meets, and you’ll understand how Scott has managed to work his way onto iconic ranches, riding alongside and photographing some of the best ranch hands in the business.

Scott’s enthusiasm and love of people really come through in our conversation, so I know you’ll enjoy it. We talk about his childhood in Oklahoma and how his father’s work as a veterinarian and horse breeder shaped his outlook. We chat about his time as a photography intern and how he chose to dive head first into no-fun chores (like mopping the floor), and how that optimistic, high-energy approach has paid off time and again throughout his career. We also discuss how he broke into photographing cowboys, and how his respectful approach has allowed him to be accepted by ranch hands throughout the West. We cover a ton, so check out the episode notes for a full list of topics and links.

If you don’t already, be sure to follow Scott on Instagram at @slusherphoto—if you love the West and the ranching lifestyle, I can guarantee you’ll love his work. Hope you enjoy this episode.

All images courtesy of Scott Slusher


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Topics Discussed:
2:45 – How Scott describes his work
4:50 – Where Scott grew up
8:30 – Time working at a vet clinic
12:00 – Applying to art school in Dallas
14:00 – Finding focus in art school
18:00 – Work ethic during his first internship
22:30 – First time taking photos of cowboys
26:00 – Making folks feel comfortable during photo shoots
27:20 – How he broke into the cowboy culture
33:00 – Working at the Four 6s Ranch
36:15 – Importance of networking
40:00 – Close calls during ranch photography
44:45 – Close call during a rodeo
49:30 – Importance of social media in Scott’s career
1:04:00 – Important books
1:09:00 – Favorite films
1:14:00 – Words of advice to the listeners
1:15:00 – Connect with Scott online

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Duke Beardsley – Art in the Big, Bold American West

Duke Beardsley – Art in the Big, Bold American West


Duke Beardsley

Duke Beardsley was well on his way to a career in medicine, when, just before med school, he took a hard turn onto a new path when he decided to pursue art as a full-time vocation. Since then, he has become one of the West’s most revered artists, producing paintings of cowboys, anglers, and the Western way of life in a style that is uniquely his own. His work is big, bold, and completely original, and it continues to grow and evolve in ways that surprise even Duke himself.

Thanks to a childhood spent between Denver and his family’s eastern Colorado ranch, Duke has been immersed in cowboy culture for as long as he can remember. He has been drawing non-stop since he could hold a crayon, and as a child (sometimes to the dismay of his parents) he demonstrated a proclivity for sketching western scenes on the walls of his family’s home. Duke is also a committed conservationist with a deep devotion to preserving the West’s landscapes and heritage. This eclectic mix of experiences and interests, combined with a formal art education, allows Duke to produce works that are ambitious, inspiring, and engaging.

I stopped by Duke’s Denver studio earlier this week, where we had a fun and wide-ranging conversation. We chat about his decision to change his career goal from medicine to art, and the value he gleaned from a formal art education.  He explains that life-long obsession with drawing on walls, and he tells some stories about how, as an adult, drawing on walls has led to surprising professional opportunities. We talk about his artistic process, his meditation practice, and how he managed his extroverted personality in the solitary world of creating art. He also discusses why land conservation is an issue that is so near and dear to his heart, and offers up some excellent book recommendations.

This was a lot of fun and I really appreciate Duke inviting me into his studio. Be sure to check the episode notes for links to everything we discuss, and check out Duke on Instagram, Facebook, and his website.

All images courtesy of Duke Beardsley


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:40 – How Duke describes his work
3:30 – Growing up between Denver and eastern Colorado
5:15 – Artistic energy in Duke’s family
6:30 – Duke’s early path toward medicine
8:30 – Transition to art school
9:40 – Biggest lesson learned from art school
12:20 – Focusing his art on horses and the West
14:20 – Life post-art school
15:30 – How Duke’s art is different now from 20 years ago
18:30 – Drawing on the wall
20:20 – Why Duke paints big pieces
21:31 – Story behind Duke’s line ups
24:45 – Getting in “the zone” while painting line ups
26:40 – Working on multiple pieces at once
27:50 – Working with galleries
29:00 – Process for commissioned paintings
31:45 – Extrovert or Introvert?
34:30 – Duke’s artistic process
38:00 – Duke’s meditation practice
41:00 – Drawing on the wall at Las Pampas Lodge
44:00 – Working with Fishpond
45:50 – Passion for land conservation
49:30 – Favorite books
52:34 – Favorite films
54:00 – Surprising activities
54:45 – Most powerful outdoor experience
57:00 – Favorite place in the West
58:40 – Best peice of advice ever recieved
59:45 – Duke’s request of the listeners
1:00:30 – Connect with Duke online

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Innovators of the American West Book List

Innovators of the American West Book List


Over the years, I’ve interviewed dozens of innovators who are shaping the future of the American West—writers and ranchers, athletes and artists, conservationists and entrepreneurs, to name a few. While their vocations and backgrounds vary widely, they’re all connected by a shared love of books. All of my guests read widely and deeply, and they credit books with shaping their outlooks, work, and lives.

On each episode’s webpage, the exhaustive “episode notes” link to all books, authors, and other pertinent information discussed in the interview. So in an effort to consolidate all of this valuable information in one easy-to-access location, I compiled every book mentioned by each of my guests into this single comprehensive super-mega-list—the Innovators of the American West Book List. I’ve tried my best to organize them into logical categories, taking into account that many of the books span several genres.

As you’ll see, the books are as diverse as the guests, with topics ranging from the obvious western history and biographies, to more esoteric subjects such as military history, religion, and philosophy. Each book has played an important role in at least one of my guests’ fascinating lives, so it’s safe to say these books have been vetted and come highly recommended. For curious readers who love the American West, this list is a treasure trove.

I will continue to update this list after episodes (last update: 3-13-19), adding newly mentioned books or authors to their respective categories. I hope this list directs you to some books that you would not have otherwise discovered and that you will continue to check back as the list grows. Enjoy!


Western History

Biographies & Memoirs

Western Issues

Adventure

Native American History

Land Management & Agriculture

History & Natural History

Athletics

Personal & Creative Development

Fiction

Philosophy & Essays

Specifically Mentioned Authors

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