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Stephen Smith, Part 2 – Evolution & Reinvention

Stephen Smith

Those of you who have been listening to the podcast since the early days probably remember my first conversation with Stephen Smith. We talked for an hour and a half about his career as a professional photographer, his motorcycle adventures around South America, his time working on farms and ranches, surfing, and more. Since that conversation almost exactly two years ago, Stephen has continued to evolve as an adventurer, entrepreneur, and artist. He bought a 170-acre property in eastern Oregon, founded a plant medicine CBD company, and has continued his work as a professional freelance photographer. With all these exciting developments, I thought it was time to have him back on the podcast for round two.

Stephen has a big vision for his new endeavors, and, more importantly, he has the work ethic and risk tolerance to achieve his goals.  We talk a lot about his new property, which he’s calling Crow Creek, and how he has gone about transforming a raw piece of ground into his full-time home. We also chat in detail about his CBD company ONDA Wellness, which provides all-natural plant-based relief for everything from muscle soreness to anxiety to insomnia. If you are someone who is thinking of starting your own business, or simply has an interest in outside-the-box entrepreneurship, you will learn a lot from Stephen’s story.

As you’ll hear in our conversation, Stephen is amazingly open and honest about the challenges he has encountered while pursuing these new ventures, physically, mentally, and financially. He pulls no punches when describing the difficulty of simultaneously homesteading a property, running a start-up, and freelancing, but you’ll notice that his tone remains focused and optimistic, while still being realistic. Yes, the Instagram posts of Crow Creek and Stephen’s travels around the West are stunning, but make no mistake, he’s grinding at a breakneck speed to make it all work. His journey is inspiring and real, so I know you’ll enjoy listening.

And as an added bonus, Stephen is offering a 15% discount on ONDA Wellness products to Mountain & Prairie listeners.  Just use the code “ED15″ at checkout, and the discount will be applied. I can’t speak highly enough about ONDA, so I encourage you to give it a try.

Thanks to Stephen for coming back on the podcast.  Hope you enjoy!

All photos courtesy of Stephen Smith


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:40 – Stephen describing his new ventures
8:20 – Crow Creek described
12:00 – Awesome aspects of Oregon
15:00 – Building Crow Creek up from scratch
18:15 – Breaking his fingers
21:10 – Upcoming event with Chris Eyer
24:20 – Breaking out of the southeast
26:25 – Mentors and heroes
30:00 – On generosity
32:40 – CBD and ONDA Wellness
40:30 – Ed’s endorsement of ONDA
42:30 – More explanation of CBD
49:30 – New favorite books
51:50 – Good films
53:10 – Biggest surprise about building Crow Creek
56:55 – Best advice ever received
58:25 – Words of wisdoms for the listeners
100:45 – Connect with Stephen online
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Upcoming Event! Hampton Sides at the Aspen Institute

Upcoming Event! Hampton Sides at the Aspen Institute


I’m thrilled to announce that I’ll be interviewing Hampton Sides on stage at the Aspen Institute on Wednesday, August 15th. We’ll be discussing his amazing book Blood and Thunder: The Epic Story of Kit Carson and the Conquest of the American West, as well as a whole host of topics related to the 19th Century American West. It’s going to be an engaging conversation at a world-renowned venue, so I hope to see you there!

Below is the full program description– click the title to visit the Aspen Institute’s event webpage.


American West Public Lecture: Kit Carson and the 19th Century American West: A Legendary Journey of Exploration

Featuring Hampton Sides, Editor-At-Large of Outside Magazine and best-selling author, in conversation with Ed Roberson, Conservation Director of Palmer Land Trust and host of the Mountain & Prairie podcast.  Hampton Sides will share his insights into the life of legendary Kit Carson, a 19th century trapper, military man, and pioneer. Enveloped in mythology, Carson’s story is a wonderful example of the conflict of culture and values that so defines 19th Century American West today.

Fee: $25. Tickets on sale Friday, August 3 at www.aspenshowtix.com.

Parking is very limited. Please carpool, walk, ride RFTA, or ride a We-Cycle bike. Information: www.we-cycle.org or www.rfta.com, or download the Transit app.


 

Rebecca Jewett – Big Ideas for the New West

Rebecca Jewett

Rebecca Jewett is the executive director of Palmer Land Trust, a conservation organization committed to protecting southern Colorado’s recreational open space, working agricultural land, and stunning scenic vistas. Under Rebecca’s leadership, Palmer has moved away from traditional, decades-old land conservation methods and into a more proactive model, pursuing audacious and outside-the-box conservation strategies across a variety of landscapes. By focusing on community above all else, Palmer is finding win-win scenarios that benefit all of southern Colorado’s numerous stakeholders, from ranchers and farmers to mountain bikers and climbers, and from cities and municipalities to counties and rural areas.

Rebecca is a fifth-generation Coloradan who grew up deeply immersed in the outdoors, which instilled a passion for open space that has guided her career trajectory. After ten years in public lands-related work, she made the shift into private land conservation when she took the helm of Palmer. As you’ll hear in our conversation, Rebecca has big plans for tackling some of Colorado’s most pressing conservation issues, issues that threaten the West from ecological, economic, and community perspectives. Her enthusiasm for her work is contagious, and her ability to communicate complex issues in an engaging way is second-to-none.

Folks who follow me on social media may already know, but I was so impressed with Rebecca and the rest of the Palmer team that I recently left the ranch brokerage business and joined the organization as a full-time employee. The opportunity to apply my professional expertise in real estate and finance to some of the West’s most challenging problems was too great of an opportunity to pass up—so I’m officially a full-time Palmer staff member, Rebecca is my boss, and I couldn’t be more excited about the work ahead.

I know you’ll enjoy this conversation, because Rebecca and I cover a wide range of topics that should be of interest for anyone who loves the West. We discuss the importance of water, agriculture, open space, and recreation, and how conservation can bring together stakeholders from all of those factions. We talk about the Arkansas River basin where Palmer focuses its efforts, and how it encompasses every Colorado landscape, from 14,000-foot mountains to flat, open grasslands. Rebecca elaborates on her leadership style, and also talks about her experience being a female leader in a once male-dominated industry. She also explains some specific projects that Palmer is taking on, and how the entire Colorado land trust community collaborates toward common goals. As usual, we also cover favorite books, films, places in the West, and much more.

If you haven’t already, give Rebecca and Palmer Land Trust a follow on social media, and be sure to check the episode notes for links to everything we discuss.  Enjoy!

Rebecca enjoying the alpine

All photos courtesy of Rebecca Jewett


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:30 – How Rebecca describes her work
4:40 – Palmer Land Trust explained
6:10 – The Arkansas River Basin
8:25 – Balancing all the conservation stakeholders
10:50 – Importance of community
13:30 – Palmer’s focus on being proactive and strategic
17:25 – Water and conservation in the Lower Arkansas Valley
20:50 – Alternative valuation for conservation
23:00 – The “dust bowl” results of drying up farmland
24:25 – Uniqueness of conserving farmland
27:45 – Water projects in southeastern CO
29:45 – Bipartisan nature of private land conservation
31:35 – Palmer’s work conserving public lands
33:45 – Rebecca’s family history in Colorado
36:25 – Colorado College
37:40 – Early career, grad school, and Rocky Mountain Field Institute
40:30 – Early outdoor experiences
41:50 – Joining Palmer Land Trust
44:00 – Balancing audacious goals versus being realistic
46:40 – Rebecca’s leadership style
53:10 – Thoughts on being a woman leader in conservation
58:40 – Ed’s new job at Palmer
1:00:00 – Favorite books
1:04:10 – Favorite films
1:05:40 – Rebecca’s hobbies
1:07:15 – Craziest outdoor experience
1:11:30 – Favorite location in the West
1:12:30 – Best advice ever received
1:14:50 – Request of the listeners
1:16:55 – Connect with Palmer online
Information Referenced

Ed on “The Little London Show”

Last week, Jeff and Darcie over at Colorado Springs’ local podcast, The Little London Show, graciously asked me to stop by for a chat. We had a fun conversation and covered wide range of subjects—conservation, my new gig with Palmer Land Trust, Theodore Roosevelt, public lands, the Springs vs. Boulder, books, the ridiculousness of ultra running, my podcast, and much more.

I have no idea if I made a lick of sense—most likely not—but if you’re interested, you can listen below.


The Little London Show: Episode 141 – Ed Roberson

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Book Club Selection: “Blood and Thunder” by Hampton Sides

July-August Book Club Selection: “Blood and Thunder” by Hampton Sides


If you’ve been following the blog and podcast for a while, you know that I read tons of books about the American West—everything from the detailed history of barbed wire to biographies of Stegner and Abbey to ecological examinations of the West’s large mammals.

But if I could only recommend one book, the choice would be easy. This book combines dense, specific history of the white man’s settling of the West, structured around the biography of one of our country’s most heroic-notorious-paradoxical characters.  It sheds light on the horrific mistreatment of Native Americans, while explaining the “Manifest Destiny” thinking that led to those atrocities. And it presents all of this information in an amazingly entertaining and exciting narrative that is truly fun to read.

The July-August Book Club Selection is:

Blood and Thunder: The Epic Story of Kit Carson and the Conquest of the American West by Hampton Sides

Blood and Thunder is in my top five favorite books of all time, and—no exaggeration—everyone I know who’s read it has loved it. Reading the book gave me a base level of knowledge about the West that has served me well both professionally and personally.  This is also one of those books that introduces you to countless characters and concepts that will warrant further reading and study—it’s a gateway drug into deep Western history.

If you’re like me, you’ll be disgusted by the government’s treatment of Native Americans, and likely perplexed by Kit Carson’s role in the “taming of the West” and the seemingly hypocritical nature of some of his actions. Was he really the Western superhero character that pop culture portrays him as?  I’ll be interested to hear your thoughts on that.

Hampton Sides is a world-class writer who has honed his gift for telling complex stories in easy-to-read, engaging prose. I’ve read most of his books and much of his shorter-form writing for Outside magazine and the like—his subjects span a broad range but his writing is consistently top-notch. But of all he has written, there’s something special about Blood and Thunder that has stuck with me for years and years, so I trust that you’ll glean lots of value from it, as well.


If you’d like to participate:
  • Grab a copy of Blood and Thunder—purchase it from Amazon or your local bookseller, or check it out from your local library. Start reading.
  • Head over to our Goodreads Group. Create an account, then join in the conversation in the online discussion forum. As you read, give your feedback on the book, pose questions to the group, and share your thoughts as you plow through the epic. I’m especially interested in your thoughts on Kit Carson—is he the hero that history has made him out to be? I have my own thoughts that I’ll share.
  • The only way this works is with lots of participation from lots of people, so the more the better. DON’T BE SHY!

Mountain & Prairie Book Club – Goodreads Group

Sarah Wentzel-Fisher – Conservation in the Radical Center

Sarah Wentzel-Fisher

Sarah Wentzel-Fisher is the Executive Director of the Quivira Coalition, an innovative conservation organization devoted to building soil, biodiversity, and resilience on western working landscapes. Quivira was founded over twenty years ago by two conservationists and a rancher, all three of whom were exhausted by the divisive nature of the relationships between the agricultural and environmental communities. By putting their few differences aside and focusing on their many shared values, Quivira has led many of the West’s stakeholders toward collaborative, long-term solutions that improve western landscapes both ecologically and socially.

Sarah grew up in a small town in the Black Hills of South Dakota and learned the true value of community at an early age.  As she grew older, she began to hone in on her interest in food—specifically how food and food production play such a huge role in the health and resilience of local communities. Her graduate work focused on the role of small-scale agriculture in New Mexico, and for six years she was the editor ofEdible Santa Fe, a New Mexico-based magazine that covers the region’s local food scene. Her background made her a perfect fit for Quivira’s mission, and her creative mindset and understanding of agriculture have allowed her to successfully lead the organization into its next phase.

I had the pleasure of meeting Sarah here in Colorado Springs as she was on the tail end of a massive road trip through the West visiting with farmers, ranchers, and land managers. We had a fun conversation and touched on so many of the subjects that are of interest to me and to the podcast listeners. We chatted about the specifics of regenerative agriculture, and some of the misconceptions among well-meaning environmentalists around grazing as an effective method to fight climate change.  Speaking of climate change, we talked about why Quivira does not hesitate to discuss climate change, even though that term can be a hot button issue among certain groups. We discussed the idea of rugged individualism, Quivira’s concept of the “Radical Center,” and the organization’s agricultural mentor program. She offered some advice for aspiring conservationists, and talked about how her creativity has served her well as a leader. And as usual, we covered books, films, favorite places in the West and more.

I encourage you to visit Quivira’s website and also to check out their podcast—it’s called Down To Earth: The Planet to Plate Podcast.  If you’re a fan of this podcast, odds are you’ll enjoy that one, as well.  You’ll probably like it better actually. Check the episode notes for links to everything we discuss, and enjoy!

All photos courtesy of Sarah Wentzel-Fisher


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:20 – How Sarah describes her work
4:05 – Quivira Coalition explained
5:45 – Misconceptions of agriculture
7:15 – Sarah’s work in the local food movement
8:40 – Educational and professional background
12:30 – Sarah’s early years and appreciation for community
15:40 – The “Radical Center”
19:10 – Founding of the Quivira Coalition
21:55 – Increased collaboration on the ground
24:40 – Media portrayals of the West
26:00 – Use of the term “Climate Change”
29:55 – How Quivira measures success
30:55 – Apprenticeship program\
33:30 – Quivira’s on-the-ground projects
35:00 – Comanche Creek project
41:40 – Transition from writer to conservation leader
43:30 – Creative practice translating into leadership
45:30 – Mentors and heroes
48:45 – Importance of being open-minded
49:30 – Best farming books
54:50 – Advice for aspiring conservationists
1:00:20 – Optimistic or pessimistic?
1:06:35 – Quivira’s annual conference
1:10:00 – Favorite books
1:12:30 – What Sarah does for fun
1:15:10 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:18:00 – Favorite location in the West
1:19:10 – Request of the listeners
1:20:15 – Connect with Quivira online and Down to Earth podcast
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David Gessner – Voice of the West’s Past and Present

David Gessner (photo by Nina de Gramont)

David Gessner is an author, a professor, and one of the leading contemporary voices on the natural world and the American West. He has written ten books, including All the Wild That Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West, which is one of my all-time favorites and was a former Mountain & Prairie Book Club selection. Thanks to his influences ranging from Henry David Thoreau to Theodore Roosevelt to Wendell Berry, David preaches the gospel of appreciating “place” and protecting our wild landscapes, public lands, and fragile Western ecosystem.

I’ve been a huge fan of David’s work for many years, and have read almost everything he has written. I cannot overstate how much his writing has helped me understand both the history and the modern-day challenges of the American West, as well as the individuals who have shaped the region.  Through his masterful prose, he combines history, current events, deep personal insights, and a hilarious sense of humor into amazingly impactful books. Without his writing, my interest in land conservation would be a fraction of what it is today.

David was in Colorado conducting research for a new book focused on public lands, Bears Ears, and Theodore Roosevelt, so we met up in Boulder for our conversation.  In a little over an hour, we managed to cover a wide range of topics including public lands, Stegner, Abbey, TR, the idea of “Boomers and Stickers,” and the importance of place. David described how a bout with cancer helped to change his writing style and interests, and how moving to Boulder in his thirties altered the trajectory of his life and career. We discussed his writing process, his coastal writing shack, and how his approach to writing has evolved over the years. As usual, we also touched on favorite books, films, and his most powerful outdoor experience.

Meeting David and having this conversation was a dream come true for me, so many thanks to him for taking the time to chat. There are a lot of resources and other priceless information in this episode, so be sure to check the notes for links to everything. Enjoy!

A Meeting of the Minds: David and TR in the Badlands (photo courtesy of David Gessner)

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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:48 – How David describes his work
3:45 – Where David lives
4:50 – Visit to Boulder and Western road trip
6:40 – Trip around Bears Ears
8:20 – Importance of adventure for writing
16:00 – David’s evolution toward adventure
17:05 – Bout with testicular cancer
24:00 – Lessons learned from cancer
25:45 – Lessons learned from Teddy Roosevelt
30:50 – Upcoming book centered around TR
35:50 – Personal threads that run through David’s books
37:45 – Boomers and Stickers
41:30 – Rawness of the West
43:15 – Importance of the “place”
46:10 – David’s writing shack
48:20 – How David produces so much work
52:00 – Introvert or extrovert
54:00 – Beliefs about the West that have changed over time
1:00:00 – More on the rawness of the West
1:01:15 – Recommended Abbey and Stegner books
1:05:00 – Downsides of TR
1:06:22 – Favorite books about the West
1:07:05 – Favorite films
1:08:50 – Favorite location in the West
1:09:55 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:12:50 – Request of the listeners
Information Referenced

Modern Huntsman Book Review – The TR Trilogy

Head over to the Modern Huntsman website read my thoughts on why Edmund Morris’s Theodore Roosevelt Trilogy is required reading for anyone wanting to be an effective force in the battle for our public lands.

 


Modern Huntsman Book Review: Theodore Roosevelt Trilogy

Excerpt: “While reading the full trilogy is an accomplishment on its own, it is really just a starting point for a deep understanding of TR, public lands, conservation, and the time period. Curious readers will find dozens of people, places, and concepts that warrant further study, and their reading list will expand wildly with each completed chapter. If the trilogy is the trunk of a great oak tree, there are countless fascinating branches to explore further.”



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Daniel Vergés – The Pursuit of Simplicity in Art & Life

Daniel Vergés

Daniel Vergés is an artist and graphic designer who captures the essence of life in the American West through simple yet amazingly impactful paintings and drawings. Like many of my podcast guests, Daniel grew up obsessed with all things western—but unlike previous guests, Daniel grew up and currently lives in Spain, where he works and creates western-focused art in his rural studio. His life-long love of the West was solidified during the time he spent living and working on the Zapata Ranch, a 103,000-acre cattle and bison ranch located in Colorado’s San Luis Valley.

Despite living so far from the American West now, Daniel’s deep love of and respect for the landscape, people, and history would make you think he’s been here his entire life. Sometimes those of us who live in the West can lose perspective on just what a spectacular place it is, so I enjoyed learning more about Daniel’s perspective as someone who does not physically live here yet is heavily influenced by the West’s landscapes and culture on a daily basis. If you ever find yourself getting jaded about life in the West, just listen to the way he describes mountains, prairies, ranches, and bison, then take a look at his art, and you’ll snap right out of it!

Daniel and I had a wonderful conversation that covered everything from life on the Zapata Ranch to his creative process. We chatted about his childhood interest in the West and his impressions of the wide-open spaces and wildlife during his first trip to Colorado. We discussed how the West influences his art, and how he strives for simplicity in his art and life. We talked about his collaborations with other artists, such as former podcast guest Camrin Dengel, and how these partnerships fuel his creativity. Daniel also discussed how his discipline of daily drawing and his passion for creating have driven his success as an artist. And as usual, we covered books, films, favorite places in the West, and much more, so be sure to check the episode notes for links to everything.

And there’s one more piece of exciting news—Daniel created a special painting for the Mountain and Prairie podcast featuring my favorite animal, the bison. It’s a super-cool piece, and I’m honored that he took the time to create something so special for the podcast. We discuss it a bit during our conversation, and I loved hearing how Daniel created it. Check out the podcast webpage to see it– I set up a little online shop where you can buy shirts and hats featuring the art. There are links on the website to everything, so go check it out!

I know you’ll enjoy this episode. Thanks for listening.

One of Daniel’s collaborations with Camrin Dengel
Podcast art created by Daniel – Available in the M&P store!

Photos by Kate Matheson, art by Daniel Verges


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:00 – How Daniel describes his work
3:30 – Where Daniel lives
4:50 – Daniel’s experience on the Zapata Ranch
7:40 – The West’s influence on Daniel’s art
9:00 – The timeless feeling of the West
10:45 – Teambuilding through branding and ranching
11:40 – First impressions of the West
14:00 – Memorable experience from the ranches
15:40 – Learning horses
18:20 – Daniel describes his art
20:30 – Daniel’s artistic childhood
21:30 – Learning art in university, then self-teaching
24:10 – Slow Artworks
26:10 – How Daniel pushes himself artistically
28:45 – Dealing with creative block
31:30 – Lessons learned from Costa Rica
36:25 – Collaboration with Camrin Dengel and others
38:50 – Mentors and heroes
41:05 – How Daniel’s art has changed
43:50 – Managing social media
46:00 – The podcast artwork created by Daniel
49:00 – Japanese philosophy’s influence on Daniel work
52:05 – Advice to aspiring artists
55:55 – Favorite books
58:50 – Favorite films
1:01:30 – Hobbies, music, running, roping
1:03:20 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:06:00 – Favorite location in the West
1:07:20 – Best advice
1:10:30 – Request of the listeners

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Best Books on Farming – A Crowdsourced List

Best Books on Farming – A Crowdsourced List


If you listen to the podcast, you know that I’m fascinated with agriculture and its ecological and economic benefits to our culture here in the American West. Recently, I’ve been working in the farming community along Colorado’s lower Arkansas Valley—some of the most fertile and productive farmland in the Rocky Mountain West. I am thoroughly impressed by these farmers’ tireless work ethic, their commitment to sustainable agricultural practices, and their desire to see the land remain in production, rather than being developed into another poorly planned strip mall or housing development.

My immersion in Colorado’s farming culture has only whet my appetite to learn more, so I reached out to the podcast listeners via Instagram and asked “What is the best book on farming that you’ve ever read?” I received so many excellent suggestions, from well-known bestsellers to esoteric cult classics.  The full list is below, in no particular order.

Keep in mind, I have not read most of these books (yet), so I can’t vouch for all of them personally. But given the curiosity and passion of Mountain & Prairie Podcast listeners, I trust that these books offer valuable perspectives on farming and agriculture—a diverse set of historical, philisophical, technical, cultural, and ecological outlooks on a complex subject. While I may not agree with every point made in these books, I do love the process of learning, exploring new ideas, challenging my preconceived notions, and making up my mind based on thorough reading and research.

Thanks to everyone who took the time to reach out with recommendations. If you notice any glaring omissions, please let me know in the comments below!

Book Club Selection: “The Big Burn” by Timothy Egan

May-June Book Club Selection: “The Big Burn” by Timothy Egan


If you listen to the podcast, odds are you’ve been paying close attention to the ongoing public lands debate. I’d also venture a guess that you’ve spent a considerable amount of time exploring public lands, whether scaling one of Colorado’s 14ers, camping in the alpine of the Wind River Range, or simply peering of the edge of the Grand Canyon. Public lands are what make the West the West, and they are the foundation of everything unique about the region, from wildlife to scenic views, natural resources to recreation.

To fully understand– or even begin to understand– the American West, you need to understand the history of public lands, so the May-June book club selection is:

The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire That Saved America by Timothy Egan

The book is centered around a massive and deadly forest fire that burned over 3 million acres of Montana, Idaho, and Washington in just two days. While the story of the wildfire is exciting and tragic, I found the real value of this book to be the detailed history of the creation of the United States Forest Service—how our public lands came to be seen as a national treasure owned by the people, rather than a resource to be exploited by robber barons. 

As noted in the subtitle, the book digs into the role that Theodore Roosevelt played in shaping conservation policy, as well as the powerful political and economic forces he had to fight to ensure the protection of these landscapes. Egan also paints a vivid picture of Gifford Pinchot, TR’s right hand man in conservation and the first head of the US Forest Service. Pinchot was an interesting dude to say the least—he would hold conversations with the ghost of his deceased wife, began each day by pouring buckets of ice-cold water on this head, and would regularly square off in boxing and wrestling matches against TR.

The topics and people examined in this book are more important now more than ever—if you want to be an effective advocate for public lands, it’s mandatory to understand this history.  I loved this book, and I think about it regularly as I visit the far-flung corners of the American West. But don’t take my word for it, check out this glowing Los Angeles Times book review for a solid synopsis.

This book club selection is being offered in conjunction with the Diablo Trust’s monthly book club.  Diablo Trust is a leader in cutting-edge conservation in the southwestern US, so I highly encourage you to check out their website and consider supporting their work. At the least, read along with their book club— they have some wonderful monthly selections!


If you’d like to participate:

  • Grab a copy of The Big Burn—purchase it from Amazon or your local bookseller, or check it out from your local library. Start reading.
  • Head over to our Goodreads Group. Create an account, then join in the conversation in the online discussion forum. As you read, give your feedback on the book, pose questions to the group, and share your first-hand experience reading Stegner and Abbey. The only way this works is with lot of participation from lots of people, so the more the better.

Mountain & Prairie Book Club – Goodreads Group


Not interested in TR, Pinchot, or The Big Burn? Then get started on the July-August Book Club selection: Blood and Thunder by Hampton Sides.  More details will be announced in early July.

Adam Foss – Lessons Learned From a Life Afield

Adam Foss

Adam Foss is a world-class hunter who has transformed his passion for wildlife and wild places into a rewarding career in filmmaking and photography. Adam has been obsessed with wilderness adventure for practically his entire life. At age 24, he was the youngest person to take all four species of North American sheep with a bow, an amazing achievement for a hunter of any age. But despite this accomplishment and others, Adam is much more focused on the process of the hunt—spending challenging days in the mountains, forming long-lasting friendships, stewarding public lands, and conserving legendary big game species.

Born in the Canadian Rockies, Adam spent much of his youth bow hunting with his father and older brother. As he grew older, his hunting trips expanded in geography and complexity, and he has now hunted many of the world’s wildest places for some of the most renowned big game. Adam initially considered a career in wildlife biology, but decided to go the creative route instead—he and his wife are now the owners of Foss Media, a company that creates films and photography for some of the most iconic outdoor brands today. As you’ll hear, Adam is passionate about wildlife, storytelling, and conservation, but he is equally humble, grounded, and grateful for being able to do what he loves on a daily basis.

We caught up over Skype, as Adam and his wife are currently traveling around Canada and the American West working on creative projects. We had a fun conversation and managed to cover a lot in just over an hour. We discussed Adam’s childhood in Canada and the lessons he learned from hunting with his father and brother. We chatted about how Adam values the process of hunting over the end goal of taking an animal and our shared theory that hunting taps into something primal in our human DNA. We talked in detail about conservation, specifically the role of public lands in both the United States and Canada. Adam also offered some wise advice to people who want to learn to hunt but may not have a long-standing connection to the sport. And as usual, we discussed Adam’s favorite books, films, and his most powerful outdoor experience.

This was such a fun conversation, and it’s clear that Adam has thought long and hard about these issues. I really enjoyed getting to know Adam, and I think you will too.

Photos courtesy of Adam Foss


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:58 – How Adam describes his work
7:15 – Adam’s upbringing in Canada
8:50 – Hunting with his dad in the mountains
10:45 – University in British Columbia and more far reaching hunts
12:30 – Adam’s early career goals
14:30 – Lessons learned from hunting with his father
17:45 – Breaking down hunts into manageable peices
20:45 – The mental game of hunting
23:00 – Process over goals
25:45 – Adam’s love of adventure and challenges
27:35 – Influences and mentors
33:15 – Adam’s current goals for a hunt
38:00 – South America trip
39:30 – Hunting as a part of human’s DNA
43:15 – Advice to new hunters
48:15 – Importance of public lands
52:15 – Thoughts on wolves and ecological balance
59:30 – Favorite books
1:02:55 – Favorite documentaries
1:05:20 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:15:00 – Connect with Adam online
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Chris Eyer – Montana’s Mindful Mule Packer

Chris Eyer

Chris Eyer is a true Western polymath. He is probably best known for his work as a mule packer, in which he uses mules to transport supplies into some of Montana’s most remote wilderness areas—he documents the adventures on his extremely popular Instagram account @muledragger. But as you’ll hear in our conversation, mule packing only scratches the surface—Chris is an experienced mountaineer and climber, a former US Marine, a practicing Buddhist, a leather craftsman, and a successful electrical contractor. From his home base in Montana’s Bitterroot Valley, Chris leads a full and fascinating life, working hard and enjoying his connection to the natural world and his animals.

Chris was raised in California, and from an early age was attracted to the outdoors and adventures in wild places. On a backpacking trip during his teens, he came across a team of mules and was immediately entranced—from that moment on, he knew that he wanted to work as a mule packer. As an adult, Chris taught himself the ins and outs of mule packing, a hard-knocks method of learning that’s not for the faint of heart. But through this long and tough self-education, he established incredibly deep relationships with all of his animals– relationships that have significantly enriched his life in many ways.

As you’d expect from someone with Chris’s diverse set of experiences, we had an extremely wide-ranging conversation. We chat about how he became a mule packer and some of the crazy and scary experiences early in his career. We cover his time in the Marines, and the lessons he learned that carry over into his daily life now. We also discuss his connection to Buddhism and his meditation practice, and how his mindful approach to life and wilderness travel keeps him and his team of animals safe in dangerous situations. Chris also explains the specifics of mules from a biological and temperamental perspective. We discuss Chris’s unique connection to legendary alpinist Conrad Anker, as well as the similarities between packing and climbing. As usual, we hit upon books, films, favorite places in the West, and much more.

There’s a ton of amazing information in this episode, so be sure the check out the episode notes. Hopefully I’ll get Chris back for a part two, because there’s still plenty to discuss. Enjoy!

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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:50 – How Chris describes his work
4:15 – Bitterroot Valley
6:30 – How Chris settled in the Bitterroot
8:10 – The equine “feedback loop”
8:45 – Early days riding horses
9:40 – Influenced by Conrad Anker and Alex Lowe
11:10 – First interaction with a packer
12:15 – Joining the Marines
14:00 – Studying philosophy and religious studies
16:15 – Discovering the Montana wilderness
20:10 – Lessons learned from the Marines
23:40 – Buddhism in Chris’s daily life
27:30 – Life’s constant state of change
29:30 – The way wilderness strips away people’s surface-level differences
31:30 – How to learn to meditate
34:15 – Learning the details of mule packing
36:30 – Scary early experience packing
40:30 – Detailed discussion about mules
45:10 – Misconceptions about mules
47:30 – How Chris selects his mules
50:20 – Control versus letting go
55:20 – Trip with Conrad Anker
1:00:15 – Significance of the Heart W brand
1:03:30 – Favorite books
1:06:40 – Favorite documentaries
1:07:55 – Fun activities
1:10:00 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:17:00 – Best advice
1:19:30 – Request of the listeners
1:20:30 – Connect with Chris online
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Sarah Calhoun – Community Building Through Commerce

Sarah Calhoun

Sarah Calhoun is the founder and owner of Red Ants Pants, a Montana-based apparel company that makes high-quality, American-made workwear for women. But Sarah’s business ventures are just the tip of the iceberg—she also started the Red Ants Pants Music Festival, which attracts world-class musicians like Dwight Yoakam and Lucinda Williams. The proceeds from the music festival support Sarah’s third venture, the Red Ants Pants Foundation, an organization dedicated to developing women’s leadership, supporting local farms and ranches, and enriching communities. It’s simply amazing that one person can do this much work!

Sarah was raised on a farm in New England, and spent her early career working as an instructor for Outward Bound. After reading Ivan Doig’s This House of Sky, she packed up and moved to Montana, where she began to turn her idea for Red Ants Pants into a reality. She learned to sew, taught herself the basics of the apparel business, and eventually moved to the small agricultural community of White Sulphur Springs, where Red Ants Pants opened for business. As you’ll hear, selling pants is just one aspect of Sarah’s larger vision—she’s using her company to build community, empower women, and bring together people of differing perspectives and backgrounds.

We had a very interesting conversation, and you’ll be blown away by Sarah’s focus, vision, and the staggering amount she has been able to accomplish. She talks about growing up in New England, and how her family helped to instill her relentless work ethic. She discusses her time teaching at Outward Bound, and how many of the lessons learned in that role have translated to her business. We chat about how the Red Ants Pants business model flies in the face of traditional MBA theories, and how her lack of business experience was actually a strength when starting the company. We also talk about how hard work in the outdoors builds self-confidence, as well as her future plans for the foundation. And as usual, we discuss impactful books, films, and the best advice she’s ever received.

This is a great episode, and I know you’ll enjoy it.  There’s a lot here, so be sure to check the episode notes for links to all that we discuss.  Enjoy!

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Topics Discussed:

2:45 – How Sarah describes her work
3:55 – Sarah’s personal and professional background
6:00 – Approaching outdoor companies with the idea for Red Ants Pants
6:55 – Moving to White Sulphur Springs
8:40 – The influence of Ivan Doig’s writing
9:45 – Joining the community of White Sulphur Springs
12:00 – Importance of community for Sarah
13:10 – Sarah’s childhood career aspirations
14:20 – Outward Bound
18:00 – Laying the foundation for Red Ants Pants
20:45 – History of Sarah’s work ethic
22:00 – Weathering the financial crisis
25:10 – Sarah’s daily routines
27:45 – Lessons learned over the years
29:35 – Working to expand her comfort zone
31:20 – Red Ants Pants Music Festival
37:20 – Red Ants Pants Foundation
39:30 – Value of hard work in the outdoors
42:55 – Foundation success stories
45:45 – Future plans for the foundation
47:00 – Heroes and mentors
49:50 – Advantages of little business experience
51:00 – Favorite books
53:30 – Favorite films
54:35 – Hobbies
55:20 – Favorite international travel spots
56:00 – Most powerful outdoor experience
58:00 – Favorite location in the West
58:45 – Best advice ever received
59:50 – Request of the listeners
1:00:40 – Story of the name “Red Ants Pants”
1:01:00 – Connect with Sarah online
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“How Do You Read So Many Books?”

“How Do You Read So Many Books?”


That’s a question I get all the time, but the reality is I don’t think I read all that much. Even when he was president, Theodore Roosevelt read a book a day. Author Ryan Holiday plows through more books in one month than I do in four. So if I can read 40 books in a year, I consider that a relatively good effort.

There’s no secret “hack,” and no, I don’t speed read. But if I can force myself to follow the guidelines below, I’m able to enjoy a respectable number of books each year.

  1. Stash Books Everywhere – Wherever I am, I keep books within reach. One in my truck, one in my work bag, a pile on my bedside table, several around the house. That way, if I have a free moment, there’s no excuse for not reading a few pages here and there. Over time, those few pages add up to several books per year.
  2. Shun the Phone – This is the crux. No matter how interesting my stack of need-to-read books is, the distraction machine in my pocket is much more enticing to my monkey mind. Deleting social media apps, switching the phone on grayscale, installing apps such as Forest or Moment, or just turning the damn thing off helps. Truthfully, using my phone responsibly without falling prey to electronic attention theft is one of my biggest challenges, both for reading and life in general.
  3. No Brain Numbing – I avoid booze and Colorado’s finest flora, which theoretically allows me to be alert right up until I fall asleep and not abnormally groggy in the morning. Both are opportune times of day to read in uninterrupted stretches.
  4. Zen for Non-Hippies – Since 2012 I’ve tried my best to meditate daily for a minimum of 20 minutes. As I’ve racked up hundreds of hours “on the cushion” (or in my case, in a plain-old chair), my capacity to concentrate has significantly increased. Even more telling, when I fall off the meditation wagon for more than a few days, I notice my ability and desire to read suffer greatly.
  5. Kill the Idiot Box – My wife and I cut the cable cord years ago and just recently built bookshelves in our living room, which relegated the TV to a dark corner of the basement. Similar to the iPhone, most of the time I find TV a distraction that adds little long-term value to my life. When we want to watch a movie or game, we do so on our laptop via Hulu, Amazon, or Netflix. (I recently binged on a full season of Stranger Things when I was sick. So good.)
  6. Hair-Trigger Eject Button – If I find myself getting bogged down or not enjoying a book, I immediately quit reading it and move on to the next one. I did enough plodding through boring bullshit in college, so I’d rather not do that in my free time as an adult. But just because I eject a book doesn’t mean I’m done with it for good—some of my favorite books are ones that I once found boring, then rediscovered with great interest years later.
  7. Envision Mañana – Whether it’s reading, exercise, or cold showers, my first instinct is usually “Nah, I’ll do that later. I need to check my email.” But if I can momentarily pause and ask myself “Tomorrow, what will I wish I had done right now?,” the answer is almost always run/crank the water to cold/pick up the book. It’s simple, but far from easy. The more I focus on guideline #4, the easier this seems to be.

I obviously love reading, and my life has improved significantly thanks to the knowledge gained from books. But checking books off a list is not my end goal. The ultimate goals are to use my time wisely, set a good example for my family, and be content with myself—the ability to concentrate and read is simply a result of making progress toward those larger goals.

When reading consistently, I’m being proactive and not wasting time. When my reading trails off, it’s usually a sign that there is a larger problem at hand (e.g. too much time playing on the stupid iPhone.) To use a worn-out cliche, reading is the ol’ canary in the coal mine.

With the exception of #1 and #6, these guidelines apply to a whole host of other high-priority life activities—work, running, getting up early, or things that really matter like spending quality, non-distracted time with my family.

Speaking of books, here are a few that have shaped my thinking on shunning distraction, the importance of focus, setting priorities, and the resulting ability to read a lot.




Becca Skinner – Pursuing Her Passions in the West

Becca Skinner

Becca Skinner is a Bozeman-based photographer, writer, and adventurer whose work has taken her to some of the farthest corners of the globe. Growing up between Colorado and Wyoming, Becca was raised by adventurous and supportive parents who nurtured her love of the outdoors and her artistic endeavors. As a young woman, Becca’s genuine interest in social work and helping the less fortunate led to her winning grants to photograph post-Katrina New Orleans and post-tsunami Sumatra. Those experiences, and the body of work they produced, allowed Becca to pursue her passion of photography full time, and her career continues to grow and evolve in exciting ways.

As you’ll hear, Becca has been willing to be single-mindedly focused and take calculated risks to “make it” as a professional photographer. When she did not win a National Geographic Young Explorers Grant the first time she applied, she dusted herself off, re-focused her efforts, and was successful on her second try. After saving enough money, she struck out alone on a 32,000-mile road trip through the American West, living in her car, honing her craft, and continuing to build her portfolio. She has devised methods for staying positive in immensely uncomfortable situations, such as a cold, wet expedition in Vancouver’s coastal backcountry, which we discuss in detail. Despite her success, Becca remains humble and down to earth, and we had a very fun conversation.

We covered a wide range of subjects– we discussed her childhood in the West and how her family played such a formative role in shaping her career and life. We chatted about her experiences in New Orleans and Sumatra, and how the disaster victims’ attitudes toward the catastrophes varied so widely. We discussed her first road trip throughout the West and how she handled being alone for such long stretches. We also talked about the importance of having solid expedition teammates and the challenges of integrating back into day-to-day life after an intense trip. And of course, we covered favorite books, films, and the best advice she’s ever received.

If you don’t already, be sure to follow Becca on Instagram and other social media. Links to everything are in the episode notes. Enjoy!

Photo mentioned by Becca at 1:03:00

Header photo courtesy of Becca Skinner


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Topics Discussed:

2:50 – How Becca describes her work
3:25 – How Becca describes her photography
4:00 – Growing up in the West
5:15 – Early experiences in the outdoors with her parents
7:30 – First interest in photography
8:40 – Interest in social work and outdoor therapy
11:15 – Post-Katrina New Orleans and takeaways
16:00 – Nat Geo Young Explorers Grant
20:00 – Experience in Sumatra
21:30 – Different attitudes between New Orleans and Sumatra crisis responses
24:00 – Considering photography as a career
25:00 – Leaving on the 32,000-mile road trip
26:15 – Becca’s supportive parents
28:00 – Solitary time in Yosemite
33:20 – Early career
36:30 – End of the road trip
39:15 – Settling in Bozeman
41:20 – Wolves and Yellowstone
44:10 – Spending more nights outdoors than indoors
46:45 – Keeping a positive attitude in tough conditions
48:30 – Picking expedition partners
50:15 – Hardest expedition
53:20 – Being Here film
55:20 – Importance of public lands
57:50 – Favorite books
59:45 – Favorite films
1:00:50 – Unexpected hobbies
1:02:45 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:04:15 – Favorite location in the West
1:06:00 – Request of the listeners
1:07:05 – Connect with Becca online
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Brendan Leonard – Grinding It Out

Brendan Leonard

Brendan Leonard is a writer and creative whose stories about adventure in wild places have built him a loyal following in the outdoor world and beyond. Whether it’s writing for his blog Semi-Rad, authoring eight books, or making films such as his recent How to Run 100 Miles Brendan combines humor, introspection, and skilled storytelling in an authentic way that strikes a chord with a wide range of audiences. But as you’ll hear, Brendan’s secret ingredient to success in his creative pursuits is his ability to consistently focus in and grind out the hard work, week after week, year after year.

Brendan is an Iowa native who moved West to attend journalism school at the University of Montana. After struggling with alcohol addiction in his youth, the West’s wide-open spaces brought Brendan a much-needed change of scenery and the opportunity for a fresh start. What started as short hikes around Missoula transformed into an all-in obsession with rock climbing that eventually led to writing gigs with Outside, Men’s Journal, Alpinist, and other well-known publications. Brendan is a shining example of how persistence, hard work, and a willingness to bet on yourself can lead to a fulfilling life and career doing what you love.

We had a wide-ranging, fun, and hilarious conversation about his life and career, and we also managed to wander into a few completely unexpected topics. We chatted about Brendan’s “all-or-nothing” personality, and the challenges and rewards associated with being wired that way. We discussed his ability to focus on the process rather than the goal, and how that approach is beneficial when creating or pursuing an outdoor objective. We obviously talked about climbing, but also discussed ultramarathons, specifically his recent experience running a 103-mile race through the Colorado mountains. And as you’ve come to expect, we covered favorite books, films, and a long list of other interesting topics.

This interview was so much fun, and I really appreciate Brendan having me over to chat. I highly recommend his books 60 Meters to Anywhere and Make It Till You Make It, so be sure to check those out..  Also, watch his film “How To Run 100 Miles”– I’ve watched a ton of ultrarunning films, and this one is my favorite.  Check the episode notes for links to all of this and more. Hope you enjoy!

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Topics Discussed:

2:55 – How Brendan describes his work
4:00 – Growing up in Iowa
4:55 – Writing for the college newspaper
6:00 – Applying to journalism schools
7:45 – Falling in love with the outdoors in Montana
10:10 – Discovering rock climbing
12:00 – Deep thoughts on booze
15:35 – Soakers and non-soakers
18:30 – Lessons learned from endurance adventures
21:00 – Importance of process over goals
23:40 – The reality of the creative life
24:40 – Story of Semi-Rad
29:00 – The need for a grinding mentality
32:00 – Strategies for the new media landscape
33:10 – Brendan’s creative hustle
35:30 – Focusing on the art versus the bottomline
36:30 – Today’s work ethic versus five years ago
38:00 – Brendan’s daily routine
40:00 – Creating illustrations
41:35 – Other creatives that inspire Brendan
44:15 – Film inspiration
47:00 – Revisiting old work
49:00 – Dealing with reviews and online feedback
53:00 – Managing social media
55:15 – Importance of public lands and conservation
1:03:00 – Favorite books about the West
1:09:00 – Favorite films
1:12:45 – Surprising activities
1:14:30 – Most powerful outdoor experience
1:18:50 – Favorite location in the West
1:22:00 – Best piece of advice ever recieved
1:27:00 – Request of the listeners
1:29:15 – Connect with Brendan online
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Jason Rich – The Humility and Hard Work of Creativity

Jason Rich

Jason Rich is a Utah-based artist whose extraordinary paintings of life in the American West have made him one of the most popular and respected working artists today. Throughout his 20-year career, Jason has won countless awards and is represented by some of the most prestigious galleries in the West. But what is more telling is the respect and admiration he has earned from many of his cowboy artist contemporaries– as you’ll hear, Jason is amazingly humble, gracious, and grateful for his career in professional art.

Growing up in Idaho, art has been a central part of Jason’s life for as long as he can remember. He was formally educated as an artist, and immediately after graduate school, he committed himself fully to painting professionally. Thanks to his focus, work ethic, and the support of his wife, Jason was able to carve out a niche for himself in the competitive world of Western art. Two decades later, Jason’s popularity continues to grow, which is partly a product of his constant drive to push outside his comfort zone and mature as an artist.

Jason and I had a fun conversation, and we dug into the many aspects of his life as an artist, family man, and admirer of the American West. We discussed his upbringing in Idaho, and how he developed the confidence and skills to go directly from grad school to professional art. We chatted about his techniques for challenging himself as an artist and how his work has evolved over the last two decades.  We also talked about his association with the prestigious Cowboy Artists of America, and how spending time with other talented artists has influenced his work. We covered mentors, favorite books, favorite artists, and much more, so be sure to check out the episode notes for a complete list of everything discussed.

Thanks again to Jason for taking the time to chat. Hope you enjoy!

All images courtesy of Jason Rich

 


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Topics Discussed:

2:20 – How Jason describes his work
3:35 – How Jason describes his art
4:50 – Jason’s childhood
5:40 – Family history in the West
7:00 – Early memories of art
9:30 – Education in art education
10:30 – Decision to pursue art full time
11:00 – Graduate school
12:00 – Transition to professional artist
14:30 – What gave Jason the confidence to pursue art
17:00 – When did Jason know he had “made it” as an artist
21:30 – Jason’s daily routine
25:00 – Jason’s need to push himself artistically
28:55 – Artists that have influenced Jason’s work
31:40 – Humbleness + Discontent
32:20 – Cowboy Artists of America
34:25 – Ensuring historical accuracy
37:40 – Unchanged nature of ranching through the ages
38:10 – Changes in Jason’s art over the last 15 years
42:40 – Approaching art as a business
46:50 – Advice to his younger year old self
49:15 – Favorite books
50:50 – Favorite films
52:45 – Other hobbies
54:55 – Most powerful outdoor experience
56:20 – Favorite place in the West
57:40 – Best advice ever received
58:30 – Request of the listeners
59:45 – Connect with Jason online
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Words of Wisdom for Anyone Who Loves the West

This article originally appeared on Palmer Land Trust’s blog as part of their #CelebrateLand campaign.

Ed’s Story: Words of Wisdom for Anyone Who Loves the West

Toward the end of each of my podcast episodes, I ask guests if they’d like to make a request of the listeners, impart words of wisdom, or offer advice. Because the podcast revolves around the landscapes and people of the American West, almost every guest provides sage guidance that, if followed, would surely make the West an even better place– conservation, open-mindedness, curiosity, and a general respect for the land and our neighbors are common themes. Since I’m the host, I rarely interject my opinions, but I have thought long and hard about how I would answer this question.

My request to anyone who loves the West is simple: Go outside and have an adventure.

I grew up far from the Rocky Mountains, on the flat, sandy coastal plain of eastern North Carolina. Much of my childhood was spent knee-deep in a creek that bisected my neighborhood, catching frogs, building dams, and constructing forts from downed trees. Those foundational backyard hijinks evolved into more substantial adventures in my teens, including rafting the Grand Canyon with my dad and trudging up Mt. Yale during a high school leadership retreat in Colorado. The adventures intensified through my 20s and 30s, and much to my delight, they have now reached a point of ridiculousness beyond what any reasonable person would consider “fun.”

While I’ve always been keenly focused on ticking outdoor goals off my list, I have recently come to understand the much-more-valuable impact of decades spent in the outdoors. Without my realizing it, the outdoors– specifically the wide-open landscapes of the American West– had become the central thread that connected almost every meaningful aspect of my life.

Experiences in wild places had shaped my value system, affected my career choices, helped me forge deep friendships, and allowed me to expand my physical and mental limits. My personal goals, political views, hobbies, and even reading habits were all heavily influenced by open space. Without this love of land, I would not have met my wife, and our daughter would not have been born. Other than the invaluable relationships with my parents and sister, every important element of my life is a product of time spent in wild places.

That realization a few years ago changed my perspective on the importance of protecting public and private landscapes. I no longer viewed land as a vehicle through which I could generate income, but rather a precious, non-renewable resource that should be stewarded with the utmost respect. My definition of progress was flipped on its head. The “legacy of conquest” that has defined the West for so long became unappealing (to say the least), and I began to align myself with people and organizations committed to a legacy of sustainability. Given this newfound awareness, I had no choice but to focus more of my time and energy toward protecting and stewarding the land.

History shows that without a counterbalance, unfettered economic interests will exhaust natural resources. The land will not protect itself, which is exactly why the work of Palmer Land Trust and other conservation organizations is so vital. I encourage you to find a group working to protect a place you love, then help them out however you can.

At the very least, go outside. Have an adventure, whether that’s catching a frog or running 100 miles through the mountains. It will change your life for the better.


To learn more about Palmer Land Trust and the important work it is doing to conserve Colorado’s open spaces, check out this video or visit the PLT website.

Book Club Selection: “All the Wild That Remains” by David Gessner

March-April Book Club Selection: “All the Wild That Remains” by David Gessner


When I’ve asked podcast guests to named their favorite books, time and again they reference titles by Wallace Stegner and Edward Abbey. No matter your political persuasion, occupation, or personal background, if you love the West, you’ve likely been influenced by at least one of these men’s work. Love them or hate them, these two men have defined much of the modern-day narrative surrounding the American West.

On the surface, the two men couldn’t have been more different. Abbey was by most accounts a hard-drinking, womanizing, take-no-prisoners environmental warrior who would consider any means, no matter how nefarious, to achieve his desired ends. Stegner was just the opposite—a proper, dignified Stanford college professor who expressed his love for western landscapes in a much more measured, within-social-norms approach. Fascinating men who were as personally complicated as they were influential.  

We need to learn more about them! So the March-April book club selection is:

All The Wild That Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West by David Gessner

All the Wild That Remains is a double biography of the two men, written by the ultra-talented (and ultra-hilarious) David Gessner. Gessner not only provides the basic, expected biographical narrative, but also thoroughly analyzes the contradictions and complexities of the two men. I read the book two years ago* and absolutely loved it. It opened my eyes to just how thoroughly Stegner and Abbey have infiltrated all aspects of thought regarding the modern-day West. It also reminded me that no person is as simple as their manicured public image. (*My wife and I are expecting our second child in the next three weeks, so I picked a book I could revisit rather than try to read for the first time while in a sleep deprived stupor!)

It’s worth nothing that Gessner is a proud environmentalist, so some of his ideas on the development of the West and its resources may come across to some as a bit biased. But we’re all biased in one way or another, so I’d recommend approaching the book with an open mind, just as you did with American Wolf.

For further reference, here’s an informative book review from the Wall Street Journal. It gives a solid overview of what you can expect. I’m very excited to discuss with all of you and hear your reactions to Gessner, Stegner, Abbey, and their roles in the West!


If you’d like to participate:

  • Grab a copy of All the Wild that Remains—purchase it from Amazon or your local bookseller, or check it out from your local library. Start reading.
  • Head over to our Goodreads Group. Create an account, then join in the conversation in the online discussion forum. As you read, give your feedback on the book, pose questions to the group, and share your first-hand experience reading Stegner and Abbey. The only way this works is with lot of participation from lots of people, so the more the better.
  • Keep your eyes peeled for an announcement on Goodreads regarding a live online discussion of the book via Google Hangouts. The number of video participants will be limited to 25, but any number of people can interact with the discussion by typing. This event will likely happen at the end of April, and I will set the exact date and time early that month.

Mountain & Prairie Book Club – Goodreads Group

 


Not interested in Stegner, Abbey, or All the Wild That Remains? Then get started on the May-June Book Club selection: The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire That Saved America by Timothy Egan.  This book will be read in conjunction with the Diablo Trust Book Club, a well-established book club facilitated by Diablo Trust, an Arizona land conservation organization. More details will be announced in early May.

Jim Howell, Part II – Restoring Ecological Capital Through Grazing

Jim Howell

Longtime listeners of the podcast will definitely remember my first interview with Jim Howell—he is a rancher and CEO of Grasslands LLC, a progressive ranch management company with operations in the American West, Florida, and New Zealand. Jim was also a co-founder of the Savory Institute, a non-profit organization that espouses the use of holistic planned grazing to restore healthy grasslands around the world. Having worked close to the land his entire career, Jim has a fascinating personal and professional backstory, so I encourage you to listen to our first episode, if you haven’t already.

Knowing that many Mountain & Prairie podcast listeners either work in ranching or are interested in holistic ranch management, Jim and I decided to have a second conversation focused on more of the nitty gritty details of his process for managing ranches. We discuss a wide range of topics, from how Jim and his investors identify ranches as potential acquisitions to their methods for increasing stocking rates while simultaneously improving the health of the grass. We discuss the intense, focused planning that goes into each operation, and Jim explains how his grazing process translates into increased biodiversity and improved ecological health of the entire landscape. This conversation is like a college class in ranch management, only much more fun and engaging.

Cinch Buckle Ranch

Our conversation revolves around two of Grasslands’ eastern Montana ranches—the 53,000+/- acre Antelope Springs Ranch and the 38,000+/- acre Cinch Buckle Ranch. My Mirr Ranch Group colleague Duffy Brown and I are working with Jim to market both of these ranches, so we’re familiar with the operations and landscapes and understand the amazing results that Jim and his team have been able to achieve. Both ranches serve as excellent case studies of how holistic management can bolster the health of the grass, increase profitability, and be a true winning proposition for the land, animals, and all other stakeholders.

Antelope Springs Ranch

Even if you don’t have a specific interest in ranches or grasslands, you’ll still get a lot out of this episode. Jim has very wise answers to some of the quick questions that I didn’t ask during our first interview, and he offers plenty of great book recommendations, including one book that Jim thinks every college freshman should read. The episode is packed with great information, so don’t forget to check the episode notes. Jim is a hardworking, curious, humble, and smart guy who has managed to create a fulfilling career that’s making the world a better place, so I know you’ll enjoy the conversation.

All photos courtesy of Jim Howell & Grasslands LLC


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Topics Discussed:

3:00 – How Jim describes his work
5:20 – Overview of the Savory Institute and Grasslands
8:40 – Grasslands’ work in the northern Great Plains ranches
10:40 – Traits of successful ranches that are common across many geographies
12:25 – Cool season grasses of the Northern Great Plains
15:15 – Importance of water on Great Plains ranches
16:20 – Benefits of being in marginal wheat production territory
19:25 – History of the cattle business on the Great Plains
23:30 – Resilience of eastern Montana’s landscape
24:30 – Increasing stocking rates
26:00 – Increasing grassland health on the ranches
27:10 – Techniques for increasing stocking rates
31:55 – Allowing for sufficient recovery without under-grazing
34:00 – The extra intellectual effort of planned grazing
36:45 – Compounding consequences of decisions on a grazing season
39:00- The hard lessons of experience
39:45 – Specific tools for managing grazing
45:10 – Evolution of mapping during Jim’s career
46:00 – Improvements to Cinch Buckle and Antelope Springs Ranches
48:45 – Ability to generate profits AND replenishing ecological capital
53:30 – Ranches as an investment for a non-ranching buyers
55:00 – Full-care grazing versus owning cattle
1:00:30 – Upward trajectory of both ranches
1:02:00 – Importance of relationships with local government entities
1:04:10 – What Jim looks for in employees
1:07:30 – Specific books about grass and holistic ranching
1:11:00 – Best book Jim has read in the last year
1:13:45 – Favorite book of all time
1:16:20 – Best piece of advice Jim’s ever received
Information Referenced

Brian Calvert – In-Depth Journalism in the New West

Brian Calvert

Brian Calvert is the Editor-in-Chief of the High Country News, a non-profit media organization that covers the defining stories of the American West. Since 1970, High Country News has been fully committed to in-depth journalism that explores complex relationships between the West’s communities, business interests, and the natural world. In our current media climate that seems to celebrate surface-level, hastily written news stories, High Country News remains committed to long-form, well-researched, and nuanced explorations of complicated issues.

Brian is a fourth-generation Wyoming native who grew up in Pinedale at the base of the spectacular Wind River Range. A blue-collar upbringing, a stint in the Army, time working in the oil fields, and years spent overseas as a foreign correspondent have given Brian a unique and valuable perspective into the relationship between people and place. This depth of experience allows Brian to approach Western issues with a curious, patient, and balanced style that is becoming more and more rare in today’s media.

I was on Colorado’s Western Slope for work and stopped by the High Country News office in Paonia to chat with Brian. We had a fascinating conversation about the history of High Country News and how its commitment to in-depth journalism is more important now than ever. We discussed Brian’s upbringing in Wyoming, and why he chose to pursue journalism as a career.  We talked about his time spent as a foreign correspondent in places like Cambodia, China, and Afghanistan, as well as the lessons he learned from living in such intense and sometimes dangerous environments. And as you’ve come to expect, we discussed his favorite books, authors, and places in the American West.

There’s a lot to learn in this episode, so please check out the episode notes for links to everything we discuss. Also, please visit the High Country News website or consider ordering a print subscription. Brian and his team are doing important work that deserves support from thoughtful, curious folks like the listeners of this podcast. Enjoy!

Headshot courtesy of Brian Calvert


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:35 – How Brian describes his work
3:15 – History of the High Country News
5:30 – Moving HCN to Paonia
7:00 – HCN’s non-profit model
12:15 – Current shifts in modern journalism
15:30 – Challenges of producing in-depth news in the age of Twitter
21:40 – Thoughts on the rawness of the West
24:00 – Brian’s early years in Pinedale
26:25 – Joining the Army and National Guard
27:00 – Desire to write and see the world
28:20 – Adventurous childhood
30:45 – From college to foreign correspondent
33:33 – Working in Cambodia
35:20 – Where Brian was on 9/11
36:30 – Moving back to WY and working in the oil fields
40:55 – Scary events overseas
45:00 – Adjusting to US after life in war zones
47:00 – Learning to surf and surfing as a healing process
49:45 – Being selected for the Ted Scripps Fellowship
51:00 – Opportunity at HCN
53:20 – In-depth journalism in the era of “fake news”
55:25 – Importance of high values in unbiased journalism
1:00:00 – Importance of considering all sides of arguments
1:02:15 – Role of HCN in journalism for a diverse readership
1:05:30 – Favorite books about the West
1:07:50 – The American West as an idea
1:11:30 – Interesting and weird hobbies
1:12:25 – Poetry
1:14:20 – Favorite location in the West
1:15:35 – Best advice ever receive
1:16:00 – Request of the listeners
1:17:00 – Connect with Brian
Information Referenced

Christine Su – The Business of Healthy Grasslands

Christine Su, PastureMap CEO

Christine Su is an entrepreneur and CEO of PastureMap, a Silicon Valley startup that creates cutting-edge ranch management software. PastureMap helps ranchers plan grazing, track forage, monitor herd performance, manage record keeping, and much more, all with the goal of saving ranchers time and making their operations more profitable. In the business of ranching—one that has not changed much in the past 100 years—PastureMap is a true breakthrough, and Christine’s innovative mindset and infectious enthusiasm are two of the root drivers of the company’s success.

Christine grew up in an entrepreneurial family, and she has had a lifelong curiosity about agriculture and the importance of food production. After building an impressive resume that includes undergraduate and graduate degrees from Stanford, a stint at McKinsey & Company, and experience in private equity, Christine combined her business expertise with her passion for agriculture to form PastureMap. PastureMap makes active or holistic management a more realistic option for ranchers, creating ripple effects far beyond the ranchers’ bottom lines—healthier grass, increased biodiversity, stronger communities, and continued viable domestic food production.

As you’ll hear in our conversation, Christine is a truly dynamic person whose passion for agriculture is matched by her intellect and entrepreneurial acumen.  We cover all the details of PastureMap and how she built the business from a simple idea to a successful enterprise. We discuss her personal background and why she initially became so curious about agriculture around the world.  We also chat about the ins and outs of active ranch management, and how a holistic approach to grazing can have far-reaching benefits beyond agriculture. As you’d expect, Christine also has plenty of excellent book recommendations related to agriculture, which I know you will enjoy.

For all of you ranchers out there, Christine is offering a 10% off coupon for a year’s subscription to PastureMap, and you can claim it by using the code “PRAIRIE” on the PastureMap website.  Check out the episode notes for all the details.  But whether you’re a rancher or not, I hope you’ll enjoy this episode.  Christine is a perfect example of someone who has merged her passion and expertise into a financially successful business that is making the world a better place.  Enjoy!

All photos courtesy of Christine Su


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:55 – Christine gives an overview of PastureMap
5:10 – How Christine came up with the idea for PastureMap
7:10 – Decision to take a break from business to work on a farm
9:45 – The importance of working ranches for healthy grasslands and a healthy planet
12:50 – Explaining grazing to environmentalists
15:30 – Impactful books about grazing
17:30 – Helping ranchers to see the value of PastureMap
20:20 – PastureMaps success stories
24:00 – How Christine expects PastureMap to evolve in the coming years
28:35 – Christine’s childhood and father’s entrepreneurial ventures
30:20 – Goals when entering Stanford
32:10 – Biggest surprise of entreprenuership
34:45 – Of all sectors, why Christine focused her start up on agriculture
37:55 – Heroes and mentors in the ag world
39:50 – Heroes of the business world
42:10 – Life lessons learned from working with agricultural producers
45:15 – Favorite books
46:15 – Favorite films
47:35 – Christine’s hobbies, including jumping in cold water
50:00 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
52:10 – Favorite place in the West
52:50 – Best advice she’s ever received
53:20 – Request of the listeners
54:08 – Connect with Christine and PastureMap
Information Referenced

Robert Krapfel – On Living A Purpose-Driven Life

Robert Krapfel at work

Robert Krapfel is a US Forest Service smokejumper—a member of the elite team of wildland firefighters who parachute into remote, burning landscapes to control some of our country’s most intense forest fires. Prior to joining the smokejumpers, Robert was a fish biologist with the US Fish and Wildlife Service, where he worked on restoring several species of fish in the lower Colorado River system. You may also know Robert as the husband of my previous guest Jillian Lukiwski, and if so, you’ve likely admired stunning photographs of them fishing, hunting, and exploring far-flung corners of the American West.

Growing up in Northern California, Robert was always focused on pushing himself hard in the outdoors, learning new skills, and establishing a sense of self-sufficiency in wild places. As a teenager, he taught himself to fish and hunt, and early in his career, he learned how to operate heavy machinery while rebuilding a remote government satellite station in the Arizona desert. Robert’s intense curiosity and action-oriented mindset have allowed him to build a life centered around adventure and rugged landscapes, while simultaneously being of service to our country and stewarding the forests of the West.

Because Robert has almost no social media presence, not many people outside his immediate circle of friends and family truly grasp what a unique life he leads, nor do they understand the vital role he played in the creation of Jillian’s blog and jewelry business, The Noisy Plume. Robert and Jillian are true partners in every sense of the word, and their approach to business, adventure, and living an authentic, purpose-driven life can be instructive for couples and individuals alike. They pursue their goals as a team and have sacrificed much along the way to turn their dreams into realities.

Robert is a perfect guest for this podcast, because his career and interests touch on almost everything that fascinates me—the West, adventure, service, creativity, hunting, fishing, travel, conservation, ecology, and plenty more. We obviously cover a lot in this episode, including the ins and outs of his becoming a smokejumper and his scariest experience while fighting fires. We discuss his work as a fish biologist, and how he and Jillian spent a year living in the Arizona desert in a rat-infested trailer. Robert also has a unique educational background, which we discuss in detail. And of course we talk about the creation of the Noisy Plume, and how Jillian’s and his vision for the project has evolved over time. And for a podcast that is always heavy on book recommendations, this episode is particularly full of good titles.

This is a great episode, so I know you’ll enjoy it. As I mentioned, Robert isn’t on social media, but you can catch glimpses of him every now and then on Jillian’s Instagram account, so be sure to follow her at @thenoisyplume. Enjoy!

Robert in the backcountry during hunting season

All photos courtesy of Jillian Lukiwski


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Topics Discussed:

5:00 – How Robert describes his work
5:50 – How he got involved in smokejumping
8:00 – How smokejumpers are selected
10:00 – Importance of integrity in smokejumping
11:20 – Robert’s desire to challenge himself physically and mentally
13:10 – Growing up in northern California
13:55 – Teaching himself to fish and hunt
16:10 – Importance of learning by doing
17:20 – Robert’s educational path
18:40 – College in Alaska
19:20 – Decision to attend Bible college in Montana
20:50 – Train jumping in Montana (and the ensuing accident!)
25:00 – Recovering from a broken back
27:00 – Finishing school at Wheaton College
28:00 – College versus all of Robert’s varied interests
28:40 – Eloping with Jillian
30:40 – Working as a fish biologist
32:20 – Moving to a satellite station in the desert
33:00 – Endangered fish in the lower Colorado
35:00 – Arriving at the abandoned, rat-crap covered trailer
37:20 – Lessons learned from the time in Arizona
39:25 – Marriage benefits of living in stressful conditions
40:30 – Robert’s role in the creation of The Noisy Plume
43:20 – Original versus current vision for The Noisy Plume
46:25 – The importance of authenticity
47:00 – Why Robert avoids social media
48:25 – Robert’s choice to leave biology and focus completely on fire
50:30 – Rookie smokejumper training
54:30 – Tree climbing as a scary aspect of smokejumping
56:30 – Scariest experience fighting fires
1:02:30 – Readjusting to life after fire season
1:04:50 – Good books about fire
1:06:00 – Best biology books
1:08:30 – Favorite books about the West
1:10:50 – Favorite documentaries and films
1:12:50 – Unexpected hobbies
1:13:45 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:15:40 – Favorite location in the West
1:17:45 – Best advice ever received
1:18:45 – Request of the listeners
Information Referenced

Profitable Ranching & Grassland Restoration in Eastern Montana

Head over to the Mirr Ranch Group blog to read more about the unique investment value of Cinch Buckle and Antelope Springs Ranches. Not only can buyers expect predictable financial returns, but they can also enjoy the satisfaction of knowing that they are bolstering a massive swath of prairie grasslands—healing the land, increasing biodiversity, and sequestering carbon from the atmosphere.

Cattle Ranches for Investment-Minded Buyers

“The Cinch Buckle and Antelope Springs Ranches are managed by Grasslands, LLC, a renowned ranch management company and global leader in Holistic Planned Grazing. On both ranches, Grasslands’ focused management techniques have restored the grasses and strengthened the landscapes’ overall ecological diversity, leading to increased livestock capacity on both ranches. The increased capacity, combined with Grasslands’ extensive investment in water infrastructure and ranch improvements, has allowed them to enjoy a level of profitability that would have been unimaginable on these ranches years ago.”

Book Club Selection: “American Wolf” by Nate Blakeslee

January-February Book Club Selection: “American Wolf” by Nate Blakeslee


During my podcast interview with renowned historian and author Dan Flores, I asked him to name his favorite books about the American West. He mentioned several classics, and then went on to describe in glowing terms a not-yet-released book about wolves in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. Dan, the author of two of my all-time favorites—Coyote America and American Serengeti—described the book as “The Game of Thrones story of modern western wolves, [unfolding] in just as riveting a fashion. It is an absolutely mesmerizing read.”

The book has since been released, and if it’s is good enough for Dan, it’s good enough for us! So the January-February 2018 selection for the Mountain & Prairie Book Club is:

American Wolf: A True Story of Survival and Obsession in the West by Nate Blakeslee

Wolves are a delicate subject here in the West, and most discussions of the legendary canine are sure to evoke strong reactions from anyone connected to the region. The animal and its influence touch almost every aspect of life in the West, including agriculture, hunting, conservation, ecology, government, sociology, tourism, and environmentalism, just to name a few. It’s difficult to understand the modern-day West without understanding wolves, so this should be an interesting and informative read.

Given the lightening-rod status of wolves in the West, this book selection and the ensuing discussion will serve as a revealing test case to determine if this book club will be a civil and productive endeavor. As you know, the Mountain & Prairie Book Club only has one rule: Be Nice. Please keep that front of mind as you read and discuss with the group. We all love the West and are here to learn from each other, so please Be Nice.


If you’d like to participate:

  • Grab a copy of American Wolf — purchase it from Amazon or your local bookseller, or check it out from your local library. Start reading it.
  • Head over to our Goodreads Group. Create an account, then join in the conversation in the online discussion forum. As you read, give your feedback on the book, pose questions to the group, and share your first-hand experience with wolves in the West. The only way this works is with lot of participation from lots of people, so the more the better.
  • Keep your eyes peeled for an announcement on Goodreads regarding a live online discussion of the book via Google Hangouts. The number of video participants will be limited to 25, but any number of people can interact with the discussion by typing. This event will likely happen the second full week of March, and I will set the exact date and time in late-February.
  • We’ll usually have two full months to read the selected book, but since we’re starting in late January, we’ll be on a modified schedule for American Wolf.  From now until the group discussion in mid-March, you’ll have 6+/- weeks to read the book. In the future, count on 8+/- weeks per book. (We’re expecting our second child to arrive in late March, so I want to have one full reading-discussion cycle complete prior to her birth and resulting crazy schedule. Thanks for understanding.)

 

Mountain & Prairie Book Club – Goodreads Group

 


Not interested in wolves or American Wolf?  Then get started on the March-April Book Club selection: All the Wild That Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West by David Gessner.  The official announcement will be in early March.

Jillian Lukiwski – Art and Adventure in the American West

Jillian Lukiwski, in the backcountry

Jillian Lukiwski is a writer, photographer, and silversmith who lives near the banks of the Snake River in south central Idaho. Her quiet confidence and deliberate approach to living have allowed Jillian to blaze her own trail, creating a rewarding career and an authentic life centered around Idaho’s unique landscape. When not working, Jillian and her husband Robert enjoy the western lifestyle from every imaginable angle—bird hunting with their german shorthair pointers, big game hunting, fishing, running, horseback riding, mountain biking, caring for their farm animals, and cultivating their land, to name a few.

Big western landscapes have always been an important part of Jillian’s life—her father worked for Canada’s National Park Service, so she was raised with a deep appreciation for the outdoors and adventure. From an early age, she was riding—and falling off of—horses, shadowing her father in the backcountry, and building a personal foundation of self-sufficiency and toughness. As a young woman, she applied that ingrained tenacity to writing, photography, and creating jewelry, and has since built a loyal following of admirers and customers around the world through her website, The Noisy Plume.

We had a fun conversation and managed to cover a wide range of interesting topics. We discussed her life path that eventually landed her in southeastern Idaho, and we chatted about the unique nature of that region. We talked about her creative process, how she’s been mostly self-taught in all of her art forms, and how she is able to manage the distractions of social media and the online world. We chatted about the importance of being uncomfortable, and how self-imposed physical and mental challenges can help to inoculate yourself against the inevitable difficulties of life. Jillian is a voracious reader, so we had a great discussion about books, as well as how reading has contributed to her success as a writer.  Be sure to check the episode notes for a full list of everything we discussed.

This was a fun and inspiring interview, and I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did!

All photos courtesy of Jillian Lukiwski


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

2:50 – How Jillian describes her work
3:20 – Jillian’s home in Idaho
4:40 – How she ended up in southeastern Idaho
7:00 – Description of Pocatello and the surrounding landscape
9:10 – Growing up in Canada’s National Parks
10:50 – Childhood in the outdoors
13:00 – Lessons i toughness learned from her father
16:40 – Jillian’s university experience
18:50 – Jillian’s drive to be her own boss
19:45 – Her early attraction to jewelry
21:00 – First silversmithing class
22:50 – Being a self-taught artist
24:25 – Her quest for original ideas
26:20 – Avoiding social media distraction
28:20 – Daily routines and must-do activities
31:10 – Running
35:20 – Hunting and her relationship with her bird dogs
40:00 – The reality of posting hunting images on social media
44:10 – Why Jillian seeks out discomfort
48:35 – Stories of suffering and benefits of those experiences
50:30 – Advice for those seeking a life similar to Jillian’s
52:15 – Favorite books
56:20 – How reading has affected her writing
59:45 – More books
1:01:00 – Favorite movies
1:03:15 – Unexpected talents
1:04:30 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:06:45 – Favorite location in the West
1:09:20 – Biggest challenge facing the West
1:12:00 – Jillian’s request of the listeners
1:12:59 – Connect with Jillian online
Information Referenced

Thoughts While Driving Through South Park

Last night’s sunset in South Park, Colorado

South Park, Colorado. A 1,000-square mile high-altitude basin. Expansive grasslands surrounded by towering snow-capped peaks, located just 70 miles west of the booming Denver metro area. In early summer, South Park is one of the most stunning landscapes in all the West—lush emerald meadows, herds of grazing deer, elk, and pronghorn, and cascading snowmelt that forms the headwaters of the South Platte River. In winter, it’s not for the faint of heart—sub-zero temperatures for days on end, gales that regularly knock 18 wheelers on their side, and blowing snow that reduces visibility to nothing.

Like most resource-rich areas of the West, South Park’s human history has been, and continues to be, one of conflict and conquest. The Utes and the Arapahos fought to control the basin’s rich hunting grounds. Then came the French and Spanish trappers whose insatiable appetite for beaver pelts all but eliminated the species from the basin. They were followed by miners, who were followed by ranchers, who were followed by developers, who were followed by present-day water speculators, all competing to squeeze a profit out of a delicate ecosystem with limited resources.

So who’s right and who’s wrong? Who deserves to capitalize on South Park’s resources and who doesn’t? Your answer likely depends on your upbringing, who pays your salary, your political leanings, what you do for fun, and an unknowable number of variables that make you a unique human. I have my opinions, but if I fed my family by working in the mining industry, would I feel differently? Probably so.

There are no simple, Twitter-length solutions to South Park’s challenges, or to the challenges of the American West. It’s a complicated and messy place—has been and always will be. But personal experience has shown me that most of us who love the West share more commonalities than differences, no matter our backgrounds or politics. Keep reading deeply, being curious, seeking out opinions different from your own. We’re all in this together, so we best start focusing on the common ground.


Book recommendation for further reading: Bayou Salado: The Story of South Park by Virginia McConnell Simmons


Photo and text republished from the Mountain & Prairie Instagram account.

My 10 Favorite Books of 2017

My 10 Favorite Books of 2017


2017 was a solid year of reading that played out even better than expected—I discovered some older titles that I should’ve read long ago, enjoyed some new releases that I’d been anxiously awaiting, and had the opportunity to meet and chat with several of my favorite authors. As usual, the books’ subjects varied widely, and I hard-headedly stuck to 100% non-fiction.

It was difficult (silly? pointless?) to try and pick the absolute best books I read last year, but below, in no particular order, is my feeble attempt at My 10 Favorite Books of 2017:


Cattle Kingdom: The Hidden History of the Cowboy West by Christopher Knowlton – The most entertaining and comprehensive history of cattle ranching in the American West that I’ve ever read… and I’ve read a lot on this subject. (November/December list)

Bad Land: An American Romance by Jonathan Raban – Interesting and new (to me) insights into the settlement of Montana’s eastern Great Plains, with an eye-opening emphasis on the role that corporations and the government played in convincing (i.e. tricking) would-be settlers to head West. (September/October list)

American Serengeti: The Last Big Animals of the Great Plains by Dan Flores – A “biography” of North American megafauna, including pronghorn, coyotes, horses, grizzlies, bison, and wolves. A must read for anyone who loves the American West. (July/August list)

Coyote America: A Natural and Supernatural History by Dan Flores – Coyotes are the most scorned large mammal in North America, yet they’re surprisingly the most human-like in their behavior. A wonderful overview of this fascinating animal and its complicated relationship with us humans. (May/June list)

On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder – A short and to-the-point historical examination of how well-meaning countries fell prey to fascist rulers and tyrannical governments. Timely reading in this day and age. (July/August list)

All Waves are Water: Stumbling Toward Enlightenment and the Perfect Ride by Jaimal Yogis – Part memoir, part meditation manifesto, and part surf travelogue, Yogis nails it again with his follow-up to one of my all-time favorites, Saltwater Buddha. (July/August list)

Free Will by Sam Harris – Harris argues that free will is an illusion and that no one is truly in control of themselves or their actions. I don’t want to believe this, but, despite my best efforts, it’s tough for me to poke holes in his rationale. (September/October list)

What Doesn’t Kill Us: How Freezing Water, Extreme Altitude and Environmental Conditioning Will Renew Our Lost Evolutionary Strength by Scott Carney – Since reading this book, I’ve taken a freezing-cold shower every day. And even after pushing the breathing exercises a little too far, passing out, and “bumping” my face on the floor, I’m still a huge fan! (March/April list)

Hellhound on his Trail: An Electrifying Account of the Largest Manhunt in American History by Hampton Sides – The true story of the nutjob loner who assassinated Martin Luther King Jr. and the ensuing international manhunt that followed. Hampton Sides never disappoints. (January/February list)

Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War by Robert Coram – A deep dive into the mind of an obsessed, unconventional, take-no-shit-from-anybody soldier, whose commitment to his craft changed the course of US military history. (March/April list)





Matt Barber & Joel Doub – Stewards of a Fly Fishing Legacy

Matt Barber (photo credit: Paige McAfee)

Matt Barber and Joel Doub are the owners of Tom Morgan Rodsmiths, a Bozeman-based fly rod company known for its unyielding commitment to quality, craftsmanship, and enduring performance. The duo purchased the company in early 2017 from Tom Morgan, a fly fishing legend who, along with his wife Gerri, built the company into one of the world’s most unique and renowned rod builders. Rather than focus on the latest fads or selling a high volume of products, Tom was dedicated solely to building the highest quality rod, one that could be passed on from generation to generation, decade after decade.

Joel Doub (photo credit: Paige McAfee)

You may be surprised to learn that Matt and Joel are not fishing industry veterans—their previous careers were in education and medical device sales, respectively. But when Tom Morgan decided to sell the company, Matt and Joel’s passion for fly fishing, their willingness to learn from the best, and their commitment to continuing the company’s legacy allowed them to stand out from the crowd of competing buyers. To everyone’s dismay, Tom passed away unexpectedly soon after the sale of the company, but only after imparting his wisdom, craftsmanship secrets, and high standards to Matt and Joel. Building on Tom and Gerri’s rock-solid foundation, the company is now entering its next phase, and the future has never looked brighter.

Matt and Joel were in Denver for the annual Fly Fishing Show, so we met up to chat about the company and their journey into fly fishing entrepreneurship. We talked at length about Tom and his laser-like focus on quality, and how he was willing to snap a rod in half if it did not meet his high standards. We chatted about the “secret” to making these rods, which mostly boils down to being willing to work harder than anyone else. We talk about Tom’s unique partnership with his wife Gerri, and how the couple went about transferring decades of knowledge and experience to Matt and Joel. We discuss the company’s unique business model, and how it flies in the face of most mainstream, MBA business theories. And as usual, we discuss favorite books, films, crazy outdoor experiences, and plenty more.

This was a very fun conversation, and I’m excited to watch the company continue to grow and thrive under Matt and Joel’s ownership. Be sure to check out the episode notes for everything we discuss, and follow Tom Morgan Rodsmiths on Instagram and other social media. Enjoy!

Hard at work in the shop (photo credit: Paige McAfee)

All photos courtesy of Paige McAfee


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Topics Discussed:

3:00 – How Matt and Joel describe their work
3:25 – Their professional backgrounds
4:50 – Overview of Tom Morgan Rodsmiths
6:40 – How Tom and Gerri and began building rods
7:20 – Tom and Gerri’s first time building a rod
8:15 – Tom’s quest for a “perfect fly rod”
9:50 – Specifics on Tom Morgan custom rods
13:00 – Why the rods do not have fancy names
14:30 – The “secret” to Tom Morgan rods
17:40 – TMR’s business model
20:45 – Why they purchased an “unconventional” business
23:50 – How they’ve been received as the new owners
26:55 – How the Tom Morgan philosophy has carried over into other parts of life
29:15 – Their history as “makers”
32:30 – Thoughts on life in Bozeman
36:20 – The process of buying the business
40:00 – What Tom and Gerri like about Matt and Joel
42:30 – Tom’s unexpected passing
43:40 – Gerri’s influence on the company and Matt and Joel
46:15 – On being embraced by the industry after Tom’s death
48:00 – “The O’Dell,” Casting for Recovery, and Duke Beardsley
55:30 – Future of the business
1:00:30 – Favorite books
1:05:20 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
1:08:10 – Favorite location in the West
1:10:00 – Best advice ever received
1:11:20 – Request of the listeners
1:13:15 – Matt asks Ed a question!
1:16:00 – Connect with Tom Morgan Rodsmiths
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