T.A. Barron – Naming Nature, Choosing Optimism, and Using Our Time Well

Tom Barron

T.A. Barron—known as Tom to his friends—is a renowned author, a lifelong conservationist, and someone whose work sits at the intersection of two subjects that are near and dear to my heart: books and the natural world. Tom has written more than 30 books, including the internationally bestselling Merlin Saga, and his newest book, Naming Nature: A Cabinet of Natural Curiosities for Word Lovers, gave us the perfect excuse to finally sit down together. It’s a beautiful, fascinating exploration of the stories behind the names we give to plants, animals, and other parts of the natural world, and I think it’s a must-read for anyone who loves nature and loves words—which probably describes most people listening to this podcast. Tom is also a deeply committed conservationist who has spent decades supporting and leading conservation efforts, so as you can imagine, we had plenty to talk about.

Tom grew up first in New England and then on a ranch north of Colorado Springs, where watching the surrounding landscape disappear to development helped shape his conservation ethic at an early age. After Princeton and a Rhodes Scholarship at Oxford, he initially pursued a career in business in New York City, while waking up at four or four-thirty every morning to write before work. Eventually he realized that those early-morning hours were the happiest part of his day, so despite having already endured plenty of rejection as a young writer, he left a successful business career, moved back to Colorado, and gave writing another shot. More than 30 books later, I think it’s safe to say that gamble worked out. Along the way, conservation has remained a central part of his life, including his longtime involvement with The Wilderness Society and many other conservation organizations and initiatives.

Tom and I talked about his adventurous parents, his childhood in Colorado, his spectacular early failures as a writer, and the decision to walk away from a successful career to pursue the work that made him feel most alive. We talked about mortality and the importance of using our limited time well; managing the constant barrage of news and social media; optimism, wonder, and our shared love of the natural world; and how Tom became so deeply involved in conservation. And, of course, we dug into Naming Nature and some of the wonderfully strange stories behind names like hellbender, sarcastic fringehead, narwhal, praying mantis, elephant, and even the Yeti. We also talked about why names matter, how paying closer attention can lead to caring, and how caring can ultimately lead to conservation. This was a fun, wide-ranging conversation with a thoughtful and endlessly curious guy, and I know you’ll really enjoy it.

Photos courtesy of T.A. Barron


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Topics Discussed:

  • 0:00 – Introducing T.A. Barron and highlighting the Rye Resurgence Project
  • 6:49 – Growing up
  • 12:47 – Tom’s early writing career
  • 16:46 – Oxford days to first novel
  • 21:53 – The work that goes into rejection
  • 24:56 – Plan B, 10 years later
  • 29:18 – Keeping mortality in mind
  • 35:10 – Good and bad tools
  • 37:51 – His first book on the shelf
  • 41:21 – Getting into conservation
  • 48:02 – The new book
  • 53:52 – Where the word “sarcastic” came from
  • 56:31 – And a few more fun word examples
  • 1:02:52 – The capacity to name
  • 1:04:19 – The Yeti
  • 1:07:38 – Cultivating stewardship
  • 1:11:11 – Book recs
  • 1:15:33 – Wrapping up (and a reading of Elephant)

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