If you’re a long-time Mountain & Prairie listener, then I’m sure you’ve heard me reference the author and historian Peter Stark. He’s written some of the most memorable books I’ve ever read, including one of my all-time favorites about the early history of the western United States– a thrilling tale of adventure and exploration called Astoria: John Jacob Astor and Thomas Jefferson’s Lost Pacific Empire: A Story of Wealth, Ambition, and Survival. Peter has also spent years working as a correspondent for Outside and has written extensively for magazines including Smithsonian, Men’s Journal, The New Yorker, and more.
I’ve been a fan of Peter’s for more than twenty years, so when I was offered the chance to chat with him, I jumped at the opportunity. The focus of this conversation is Peter’s newest project, an e-and audiobook titled Sins of the Founding Father: George Washington, the Indigenous Tribes, and the Decisions that Shaped America’s Future. It’s an in-depth exploration of an often-overlooked battle in 1791 between American troops and Indigenous tribes– a violent fight that was decisively won by the Native Americans, and resulted in three times more American deaths than the Battle of Little Big Horn. The e-book also covers the life and personality of George Washington, America’s insatiable hunger for land, and the United States’ uncertain future in the years just after the Revolutionary War.
You might be wondering, what does George Washington have to do with the present-day American West? Back then, the term “American West” described a region now known as Ohio. Well, as you’ll hear in this conversation, this specific battle set the course of action for the next hundred+ years regarding the United States’ policies toward Indigenous tribes. The American’s crippling defeat led Washington and other leaders to ramp up their violent tactics against Native tribes and hold nothing back in their quest to claim as much western land as possible, as quickly as possible. It’s an eye-opening story that gave me a much better understanding of the ambition, egos, and economic realities that laid the foundation for the modern-day West.
Sins of the Founding Father is available exclusively at Scribd, and there’s a link in the episode notes that will give you a free 30-day trial. Scribd is a really cool app that I’ve enjoyed using for e and audiobooks, so go to Scribd.com to check it all out. Sins of the Founding Father is a great read and at only 70 pages, you can enjoy it in one sitting. I hope you’ll check it out, and I hope you enjoy this conversation.
All images courtesy of Peter Stark and Scribd
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EPISODE NOTES
Topics Discussed:
- 4:00 – Peter describes young George Washington
- 7:15 – Peter discusses Washington’s lust for land acquisition
- 19:30 – Peter talks about how Washington’s land speculation set the playbook for greedy land acquisition seen throughout US history
- 23:00 – Peter jumps ahead to Washington’s life in 1791
- 40:00 – Peter talks about writing history in an engaging way
- 46:00 – Peter discusses his own writing process
- 51:15 – Peter discusses the historical parallels between our recent sociopolitical turmoil and that of the late 1700s following the Battle with No Name – or -discusses the fallout of the Battle with No Name
- 1:01:15 – Peter’s book recommendations
Information Referenced:
- Sins of the Founding Father by Peter Stark
- Last Breath by Peter Stark
- Young Washington by Peter Stark
- Astoria by Peter Stark
- The French and Indian War
- Jamestown, VA
- Shenandoah Valley
- Piedmont
- Blue Ridge Mountain
- Robert Dinwiddie
- Lexington and Concord
- Patrick Henry
- Benjamin Franklin
- The Confederated Congress
- Shawnee Tribe
- Henry Knox
- Fort Washington
- Miami Tribe
- Kakionga
- Arthur St. Clair
- Gout
- The Battle with No Name (the Battle of the Wabash)
- Outside magazine
- Tim Colter
- Matthew Waxman
- Mark Trahant
- Shoshone Tribes
- Navajo Nation
- Tecumseh
- William Henry Harrison
- Thomas Jefferson
- Alexander Hamilton
- Edmond Randolph
- Mount Vernon
- The Northwest Ordinance of 1787 (Peter discusses Art. 3)
- The Annals of Congress from March 1792
- Potawatomi People
- John Dunn Hunter
- Memoirs of a Captivity Among the Indians of North America by John Dunn Hunter
- Scoouwa: James Smith’s Indian Captivity Narrative by James Smith
- The Snow Leopard by Peter Matthiessen
- Coming into the Country by John McPhee
- Winter in the Blood by James Welch
- Fools Crow by James Welch
- Crow Tribe
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- Chris La Tray – Rediscovering His Past, Writing His Future
- William deBuys – Sage of the Southwest
- Hampton Sides – Live at the Aspen Institute
- Sara Dant – A Deep Dive Into the History of the West
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