Nicole Qualtieri is an outdoor writer and editor, a conservationist, and a committed outdoorswoman. Over the past decade, she’s worked with some of the most notable brands in the outdoor industry, including MeatEater, Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, and GearJunkie, and she has bylines with many well-known outdoor publications, such as Outside, Modern Huntsman, and Backcountry Journal. But despite being plugged in with many of the best names in the outdoor business, she and a few creative friends decided to go out on a limb and start their own outdoor publication– one that focuses on substance over clickbait, depth and vulnerability over the silly quest for virality and search engine optimization.
The name of the project is The Westrn, and it combines the best parts of online writing and journalism with a printed, hold-it-in-your-hands newspaper that ships to subscribers four times per year. As you’ll hear Nicole describe, the topics covered by The Westrn’s include hunting, conservation, and a wide range of outdoor adventure. But the deeper point of it all is to build a tight-knit community of engaged outdoor enthusiasts of all stripes, who appreciate the value of nuanced writing, thinking, and publishing. As many legacy outdoor media brands have become controlled by private equity and now focus on scalability over creativity and quality, the role of people like Nicole and her partners at the Westrn are all the more important— they are taking a real risk to make the Westrn a reality, and I greatly admire their vision and commitment to action.
Nicole and I connected online– she was at her home in Anaconda, Montana and I was here in Colorado Springs– and we had an enlightening conversation filled with lots of laughs about her fascinating life, career, and the creation of The Westrn. We discussed her upbringing in what she describes as a high-control religious cult and how hunting and the outdoors were her way of working through some of that childhood trauma. We discussed her non-traditional career path, which included a stint as a stand-up comic, and how she worked her way into the outdoor industry. We discuss the importance of hard work, preparation, and grinding, and how self-confidence is generated from those activities. We discuss the current state of the outdoor media industry, the financial challenges of making it as a freelancer, her writing process, contentment vs happiness, favorite books, and of course, her goals for The Westrn.
Nicole was also kind enough to offer some discount codes for M&P listeners:
20% Discount off the Annual Subscription
—Link for M+P Listeners will auto-populate discount: https://www.thewestrn.com/mtnprairie
20% Off Pre-Order Single Issues:
—Use link to use code: https://thewestrnstore.com/discount/MTNPRAIRIE?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fthe-westrn-individual-issue
—Or use code MTNPRAIRIE
A huge thanks to Nicole for the conversation, and thank you for listening. Enjoy!
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Photos courtesy of Nicole Qualtieri: Header by Ty Grethen of Weatherby; Embedded portrait by Lindsey Mulcare
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Topics Discussed:
- 4:30 – Nicole and Ed’s first convo (shared Roadhouse appreciation)
- 6:15 – Nicole’s background
- 8:15 – How writing’s been a part of Nicole’s life
- 13:15 – Getting out West
- 16:30 – College degrees
- 19:15 – On writing On Killing Animals
- 21:00 – The grind and the craft
- 28:00 – Taking the pain
- 30:15 – Outside’s rejection of On Killing Animals
- 34:45 – The corporatization of outdoor media
- 44:30 – The Westrn
- 54:30 – Taking a good idea and running with it
- 59:45 – Etymology of happy
- 1:02:30 – Nicole’s book recs
- 1:07:00 – Parting words
Information Referenced:
- Nicole Qualtieri
- The Westrn
- The Westrn’s Newspaper
- On Killing Animals, the first story published by The Westrn, by Nicole
- How to Know if You’re in a Cult with Tia Levings: Glennon Doyle, Abby Wombach and Amanda Doyle’s podcast with Tia Levvings
- The Best of Outside: The First 20 Years
- Gear Junkie
- MeatEater
- The Brass Check by Upton Sinclar, journalism and corruption
- How to get the Westrn in print
- The Surfer’s Journal and Ed’s interview with Scott Hulet
- Adventure Journal
- Definition of “happy”
- If you want to be an outdoor writer, read: A Rough Guide to the Heart and A Little More About Me by Pam Houston; H is for Hawk by Helen Macdonald
- If you’re interested in conservation, read: Louis Warren’s The Hunter’s GameIf you want poems, read: Returning to Earth, Jim Harrison; Mary Oliver’s Devotions; Nikki Giovanni’s Bicycles; and not an Ode to the Black Panther, but Pablo Neruda’s Ode to an Onion, as a substitute.
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