Hampton Sides, Part 2 – How to Tell a Damn Good Story

Hampton Sides, Part 2 – How to Tell a Damn Good Story

Anyone who has listened to this podcast surely knows of best-selling author and narrative historian Hampton Sides. I reference his books often and was lucky enough to interview him in August at the Aspen Institute, which I released as a podcast episode. In that conversation, we discussed the history of the 19th-Century American West, and many of you kindly reached out to let me know how much you enjoyed learning from Hampton. So I was thrilled—and I think you will be too—when Hampton generously stopped through Colorado Springs last week in the midst of a busy tour for his amazing new book, On Desperate Ground: The Marines at the Reservoir, the Korean War’s Greatest Battle.

As you’d expect, we had a fun conversation that expanded upon our first interview—we dig into his childhood in Memphis, Tennessee, and discuss his life-long desire to be a writer. We talk about his early years in journalism, and how his experiences writing and editing have contributed to his success as an author. We also chat about his years at “Outside”magazine and some of the realities of being a freelance journalist and author. Additionally, he shares some of the ins and outs of his writing process, including the struggle of cranking out a first draft, a process he describes as spending time in the “pain cave.” We also discuss the Grand Canyon, Wallace Stegner’s writing, and much more.

Finally, we spend some time talking about On Desperate Ground, which I can’t recommend enough. I knew next to nothing about the Korean War, but as usual, Hampton’s writing was simultaneously educational and entertaining, allowing me to learn a lot while thoroughly enjoying the process. You don’t have to be a military history buff to enjoy this book—his exploration of characters’ personalities, motivations, and egos makes for an engaging story that will appeal to anyone who is fascinated by interesting people. And being a weird guy who loves climbing big, absurdly cold mountains, I especially enjoyed our discussion of North Korea’s brutal winters and how sub-zero temperatures were one of the deadliest forces in this battle.

Thanks again to Hampton for making time to meet up during such a busy book tour. Be sure to check the episode notes for links to all the authors and books we discuss, as we cover a lot.  This was a fun conversation, and I know you’ll enjoy it.

Header photo by SERGEY GORSHKOV, headshot by KURT MARKUS.


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Episode Notes

Topics Discussed:

3:20 – How Hampton describes his work
7:15 – Hampton’s early years
11:00 – College and history training
13:40 – Importance of discipline in writing
17:00 – The “Pain Cave”
19:00 – Publising his first book
20:20 – First job out of college
22:00 – Working at Outside
24:45 – Learning the art of structure
28:30 – Importance of characters in history
31:40 – General MacArthur
36:00 – The cold as a character in the book
40:45 – US Marines’ retreat from the reservoir
41:50 – Chairman Mao
42:40 – Lessons learned from veterans
47:40 – Favorite books
48:45 – Favorite documentaries
49:40 – Most powerful experience in the outdoors
51:40 – Best advice ever received
52:45 – Connect with Hampton online
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